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Username Post: sway bars on our trucks - reviews ??        (Topic#81506)
dvalentine 
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Re: sway bars on our trucks - reviews ??
04-29-05 06:01 PM - Post#556539    
    In response to coilspring66

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I got the one from ECE, ... I must say that the installation was about the easiest thing I did on this truck. It's a beefy piece of metal. ..I'd go with this one Woog. ...Greg




I second that !!!



 


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12-10-11 10:17 AM - Post#2167133    
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sway bar - article - mentioned above, new url

-W



 
64Guy 
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12-10-11 06:08 PM - Post#2167298    
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I have one from a 78 C-10 on the front. I bought a rear bar from CPP. It is also lowered with airbags. I only drove it once before I started the restoration(I got a ticket for no mirrors), so I have nothing to compare to. I do know, it's a Hoot to drive! I really like those roundy round freeway on and off ramps! HeHe!
I think I would even like to try that Autocross event they do when the Power Tour comes to town. May be fun.
T

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12-10-11 11:47 PM - Post#2167403    
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64Guy - I finally have a bar, with some new straps and hardware on the way from ECE.

:D

-W



 
hilandr451 
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12-11-11 12:18 PM - Post#2167559    
    In response to coilspring66

  • coilspring66 Said:
I got the one from ECE, simply because it attached directly to the 1966 factory holes in the lower control arm. It just looks more solid, although I'm sure both (attachments) are equally effective. I must say that the installation was about the easiest thing I did on this truck. It's a beefy piece of metal. ..I'd go with this one Woog. ...Greg



Finally chiming in here, 6 years late - the beefier the better as far as sway bars & old trucks are concerned. I installed the factory sway bar from the 1989 3/4 ton Suburban donor front end. Compared to the factory 7/8" that came on my '66 as part of the "Custom Camper" package, the 1989 counter part was 1-1/4" in diameter.

What a difference on the road! Taking corners is fun now! Even though the truck is still a heavy duty 3/4 ton hauler, it handles remarkably well!





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-The Hilander.
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Rich 5150 69 
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12-13-11 08:48 PM - Post#2168565    
    In response to hilandr451

Sway bars all the way up to 1 ton will fit.....also put in a modified rear trans am or camaro sway bar and then chase the ricers...!

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12-14-11 10:02 AM - Post#2168694    
    In response to Rich 5150 69

I have the sway bar with the end links as posted by tkdtkd. Not sure where I got it (LMC, Brother's, wherever), but it mounts further out on the control arm with an angle bracket. My new tires and rims with 4.5-inch back space rub the sway bar on tight turns (parking lots, etc.). I never did like the set-up to begin with. I'm going to switch it out for the Early Classic one. Looks like a better set up all around and allows for more clearance under there.



 
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07-30-12 05:40 PM - Post#2253921    
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new url, same article as I linked above:

sway bar options on 60-66 trucks


edited, tweaked with some links to some other threads and a tech article about a sway bar install.

-W



 
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09-10-12 04:09 PM - Post#2268465    
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Front Sway Bar Install on a 1966 C10 Chevrolet pickup. This article has several excellent step by step black and white shots of the Early Classic sway bar kit being installed. Great information! This article is relevant to the stock height, 1963-1972 Chevy/GMC trucks.

Taking The Sway Away(article link)
Simple and Affordable Better Handling

From the February, 2009 issue of Classic Trucks
By Bo Dumoor

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Some neat shots showing where to drill the first locating hole in the frame, for the sway bar mounting bracket.


Taking the Sway Away – sway bar for 1963-1972 trucks

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This article is on the Early Classic Enterprises website and it deals with installing front and rear sway bars on a lowered truck. It also deals with rebuilding the front end on the same truck.


EARLY CLASSIC ENTERPRISES TAKES A REALISTIC APPROACH TO A SUSPENSION REBUILD
Mid 60's Makeover - Article I

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REAR SUSPENSION & TRACK DAY
Mid 60's Makeover - Article I

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some neat stuff I found that goes along with the topic of this thread, just adding it in here for future reference.

-W



 
Nthefamily 
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09-23-12 05:33 PM - Post#2272692    
    In response to Woogeroo

So how does it handle the road now? Can you tell a big difference?

Great pics!

85 K10 Silverado-461
92 S10
65 C10-327 (Gone but not forgotten)


 
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09-23-12 05:46 PM - Post#2272704    
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It handles nice... but it was brought to my attention that maybe I put the sway bar on upside down.

After further review, I think they may be right!

haha. OOooops!

It never fails, I have to do everything over, anytime I work on this thing... it always turns into a civil engineering project, I swear!

old trucks are fun, old trucks are fun, old trucks are fun...

... repeat until you believe!

hahaha.

-W



 
hilandr451 
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09-27-12 06:29 PM - Post#2274282    
    In response to coilspring66

I third it. (can you say that?)

-The Hilander.
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1966 C20 Custom Camper "Rattle can primer red" 5.7L, 700 R4 trans 410 diff. front disc, p/s
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09-28-12 01:36 AM - Post#2274353    
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OK!

NEW PICS.

New post... hopefully it is on the correct way now!

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I took a used front sway bar and frame brackets that I picked up from a fellow 60-66 truck guy for this job.

1 & 1/16 inch diameter sway bar. For future information, they ran these bars in the same shape for a long time, so if you have a good salvage yard nearby, you should be able to find one. If not, ECE(mentioned below) also sells news ones.

I used the Early Classic Enterprises poly-graphite bushing kit for the 1 1/16 inch diameter bar. This comes with two grease-able bushings for the frame, the two bushings for each A-arm, and the brackets for all 4. It also comes with 8 bolts/nuts(grade 8 hard ware), two washers for each bolt.

I used ECE because of the excellent reviews I've read about the quality of their products and customer service... also, from PM conversations I've had with other board members.

I had to buy 4 identical, additional bolts/nuts/washers(also, grade 8 hardware) to mount the brackets to the frame.

The ECE directions call for drilling the first hole in the frame, 2 1/2 inches forward, center to center from the rivet in the front cross member. Then you check that and measure it a dozen times and lay the brackets up to check how it fits on the frame and stress out about drilling the hole wrong...

Once you decided that is where you want it, drill a 3/8 inch hole while using eye and ear protection!!! Metal bits will go everywhere and it is falling DOWN on you. If you aren't familiar with drilling metal, use a smaller bit in the first hole. Then work up to your final size bit. I used a bit about 1/3rd smaller bit for the first hole, then went to the 3/8" size.

Use this hole and the bracket to determine the next hole. Put the bolt in the hole and through the bracket, snug it up and see where the next hole in the frame should be.

My '65 c10 already had the holes in the A-Arms so I did not have to drill those.

The next trick was getting the bolts in the A-Arm bushings with the supplied marine grease, then sliding in the sway bar... and holding it up while I snugged the bolts down on each side.

Then, the way I did it... I took the polygraphite/rubber parts and greased 'em up and slipped 'em on to the bar. I held up the bar some more... then I put the metal brackets on and got the nuts started on each side. This way worked best for me.

Then, torque 'em all down to 40 ft pounds.

Yay.


-W


p.p.s. I used the hydraulic jack as my extra pair of hands to hold up the bar, after I got the ends on each A arm. I used the jack and the blocks of wood to level it up enough for me to put the rubber bushings and brackets on... and so that I could get the nuts started on the bolts. It worked out good for me. Work smarter, not harder.

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Brad54 
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09-28-12 08:27 PM - Post#2274614    
    In response to Woogeroo

For those of us with 60-62 Torsion Bar front sway bars, I am prototyping one now, and will have them available in about 6 months.

It'll be a bolt-on, and will use existing holes in the lower control arms.

Stay tuned!
-Brad

'61 Suburban daily driver
Wife's daily driver: 61 Corvair Lakewood station wagon with '65 140-horse 4-carb/4spd
'57 Chevy 2dr 150 wagon gasser
'56 Chevy 2dr post
'54 Buick Special


 
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10-06-12 03:38 AM - Post#2277100    
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09/23/2012 : front sway bar with ECE bushings

details... along with a few after photos.

-W




 
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10-14-12 05:18 PM - Post#2279722    
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Nice install. I need to install one on my 63. Did you have to drill holes for the end bushing brackets on the A arms?



 
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10-14-12 07:09 PM - Post#2279758    
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Howdy,

on my '65 c10 the holes in the A-Arms were already there. I forget what year they started making them all that way...

-W



 
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01-31-22 03:15 PM - Post#2835513    
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I was re-reading an old article about installing sway bars on '63-'66 trucks and they have this tidbit in there, may come in handy to someone in the future:

GM offered a small factory sway bar as an option starting in late 1964, so the lower control arm mounting holes are utilized.

The '63 and early '64 models will require the lower control arm mounting holes to be drilled.

I've consolidated and linked a lot of sway bar stuff in this article here too, fyi:

sway bar options for 1960-1966 Chevrolet/GMC trucks

-Woog



 
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06-02-22 07:40 PM - Post#2842236    
    In response to Woogeroo

Good info!

I ended up with the Hellwig #7746 Front Sway Bar Kit GM 63-87 C10/C20, 73-85 Suburban 2WD Stock Ride Height and am very pleased. It made a world of difference!

Link To Hellwig Page w/the #7746 kit on it



 
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06-05-22 04:42 PM - Post#2842395    
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Todd, thanks for sharing the info., always nice to know what the options are.

I bet it handles like a totally different vehicle doesn't it?

-Woog



 
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06-07-22 08:39 AM - Post#2842511    
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You bet it does! None of that pitching and rolling that it used to do! :-)



 
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06-12-22 05:39 PM - Post#2842796    
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How do we set a suspense for Nov. 2024. This thread will be 20 years old and still giving out good info? Mel



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06-28-22 12:57 PM - Post#2843509    
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Well, good information is where you find it, I guess...



 


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