Gain extra benefits by becoming a Supporting Member Click here find out how!

Classic Performance Products Classic Parts
American Auto Wire Classic Industries
Danchuk Catalog
Hellwig Products IncPerformance Rod & CustomJoin the Community today
Ecklers AutoMotiveNu-Relics Power Windows





Username Post: 99 MC Z34. Real MC?        (Topic#75906)
baddassnova 
Senior Member
Posts: 275
baddassnova
Loc: Stockton, CA
Reg: 09-01-04
09-20-04 08:22 PM - Post#516068    

I didn't even realize they had a Monte Forum here. Well I own a '99 MC Z34 with a 3800 engine and some mods so I thought I would post. I wanted to get your opinions on it. Do you guys consider it to be a 'real' MC? Since it is faster or as fast as every production Monte besides the 454 SS and the new SC version, it should at least get some respect no? It could easily wipe the floor with any stock 80s SS Monte also. However, since it is FWD V6-powered, people just don't take it seriously. Anyways, just thought I would get everyones opinions on my daily driver Monte.

'74 Nova: 383/TH350, Dart 215cc Pro-1's, Comp 286AH-8, 1.6 roller rockers, Vic Jr, 1 3/4, Holley DP, 3,500-stall, 30-spline axles, Eaton posi, 4.11s, 17" Trq Thrust IIs '99 Z34 Monte: 3800 Series II


 




Randy_W 
None
Posts: 27804

Reg: 01-06-02
Re: 99 MC Z34. Real MC?
09-21-04 01:59 AM - Post#516069    
    In response to baddassnova

Why not??

Randy

DON'T mess with Old Men, we didn't get old by being, STUPID!!!

"The veneer of civilization is very thin!" (Arlo)


 
TPI_ElCamino 
Senior Member
Posts: 565
TPI_ElCamino
Age: 48
Loc: Northwoods, Wisconsin, US...
Reg: 03-30-03
Re: 99 MC Z34. Real MC?
09-21-04 07:08 AM - Post#516070    
    In response to Randy_W

I had a 98 Z34. Black w/black leather. Ordered it new in '98. Yep, it was quick, but I just couldn't get into the fwd performance. Then in 2001 I got a speeding ticket (82 in a 45 ) while passing someone, and it stopped being fun to drive, so I sold it (with only 8000 miles on it) for 15K and concentrated on building my '79 El Camino.
-----Don't get me wrong, there was nothing wrong with it, I just can't get into front-wheel-drive performance cars. I like smokin' the rear tires.
-----I recently went to a local 1/4 mile oval track to watch the stock-car races, and most of the cars there (60 or 70) were fwd cavaliers, berretas, grand-ams, and escorts. I just couldn't get into those. Then they brought out the "bomber" class and there were only 5 cars in that class, all rwd. That was more like real racing to me. Maybe, at 33, I'm just getting old already. I have 3 vehicles now, and they're all rwd, My '79 El Camino, a '95 S-10, and when I went looking for a new SUV this spring, the salesman at the dealership was trying to talk me into a new Equinox, which is fwd based, but I saw this lonely, still-new 2003 4wd Tracker which nobody wanted, as it was rwd based, and a 5-speed on top of that, and since nobody else wanted it, managed to get a great deal! Long live the old fashioned!
-----Just my 2 cents...


Josh.

1957 3100 step-side. 235 / 4-speed

1979 El Camino. 305 TPI / 700R4

1995 S-10. 2.2l 4cyl / 5speed (parts chaser and daily driver)

2003 Tracker. 4dr, 4X4, 2.5l 4cyl / 5speed (canoe hauler)


 
baddassnova 
Senior Member
Posts: 275
baddassnova
Loc: Stockton, CA
Reg: 09-01-04
Re: 99 MC Z34. Real MC?
10-01-04 11:53 PM - Post#516071    
    In response to TPI_ElCamino

Ya I totally agree with you about the FWD thing. This will definetly be the last FWD vehicle I own. When I bought the car 3 years ago I wanted something dependable and fairly new. I am a Chevy fan so that limited my choices. Couldn't afford an LS1 Camaro and I didn't want a V6 Camaro, don't like Cavaliers or any 4-cyl cars, don't want a truck or SUV, so I got the Monte. Besides being FWD and auto trans its a great car. Runs low 15s in the 1/4 mile, its dead on reliable, and gets decent fuel economy. Just thought I would get peoples opinions on it. As for smokin the rear tires and building an all out drag car, thats what I have the Nova for.

'74 Nova: 383/TH350, Dart 215cc Pro-1's, Comp 286AH-8, 1.6 roller rockers, Vic Jr, 1 3/4, Holley DP, 3,500-stall, 30-spline axles, Eaton posi, 4.11s, 17" Trq Thrust IIs '99 Z34 Monte: 3800 Series II


 
knightfan2691 
Dedicated Member
Posts: 6195
knightfan2691
Age: 46
Loc: Elgin IL
Reg: 11-18-02
Re: 99 MC Z34. Real MC?
10-02-04 05:46 PM - Post#516072    
    In response to baddassnova

Quote:

I didn't even realize they had a Monte Forum here.




*grins*

Yes, we do! And, welcome!


Quote:

Do you guys consider it to be a 'real' MC?




*shrugs*

It doesn't have the emblem or the bodylines or the RWD or the V8 availability....


Quote:

Since it is faster or as fast as every production Monte besides the 454 SS and the new SC version ... It could easily wipe the floor with any stock 80s SS Monte also.




I cringe everytime someone, in whatever fashion, says that because the '95-'04s are faster than the older generations they are real MCs. Why? Because if speed and quickness are the criteria of determining "real" MCs, then I don't have any MCs...and a BMW or Corvette could be considered a MC....


Quote:

...just thought I would get everyones opinions on my daily driver Monte.




When I first saw your post, I was hesitant about it. Why? I've seen too many disagreements about this very topic turn into heated arguments that led to nothing good. And, I didn't post because most people know how I feel about the '95-'04s and, quite frankly, I'm tired of discussions like these going sour. I know quite a few people who own '95-'04s and consider most, if not all, of them friends, despite my views.

I am pleasantly surprised to see this discussion remain civil and non-confrontational .

Cort, "Mr MC" / "Mr Road Trip", 31swm/pig valve/pacemaker
'72/'6/'9/'81/'7, train/models = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort/
MC Guide = http://www.chevyasylum.com/mcspotter/main.html



 
baddassnova 
Senior Member
Posts: 275
baddassnova
Loc: Stockton, CA
Reg: 09-01-04
Re: 99 MC Z34. Real MC?
10-05-04 10:03 AM - Post#516073    
    In response to knightfan2691

Thanks for the welcome!

I just wanted to get people's opinions about my MC. The 5th and 6th Gen MCs are considered by many to be 'unworthy' of the Monte Carlo nameplate and the '95-99s are considered the worst. I am totally open to any constructive criticism and I can understand why people dislike these cars.

Quote:

I cringe everytime someone, in whatever fashion, says that because the '95-'04s are faster than the older generations they are real MCs. Why? Because if speed and quickness are the criteria of determining "real" MCs, then I don't have any MCs...and a BMW or Corvette could be considered a MC....





I was just pointing out something good about the car. I think it nice that despite being a FWD V6-powered car, it is still faster than a 80s Monte Carlo SS. And while I love the late 80s Monte Carlo SS, I would probably rather have a '04 S/C Monte SS if I had to keep each stock.

It is all about personal opinion. I bought the car for practicality. Having an older car for everyday driving and long commutes just isn't something I want to deal with right now. The Monte serves me well in that aspect. But I will tell you for sure that this will be my last FWD car. The V6 part I don't mind, its the FWD part that I don't like.

'74 Nova: 383/TH350, Dart 215cc Pro-1's, Comp 286AH-8, 1.6 roller rockers, Vic Jr, 1 3/4, Holley DP, 3,500-stall, 30-spline axles, Eaton posi, 4.11s, 17" Trq Thrust IIs '99 Z34 Monte: 3800 Series II


 
knightfan2691 
Dedicated Member
Posts: 6195
knightfan2691
Age: 46
Loc: Elgin IL
Reg: 11-18-02
Re: 99 MC Z34. Real MC?
10-05-04 05:03 PM - Post#516074    
    In response to baddassnova

*ponders*

Yes, speed/being faster is good...if that's what you are into....

*shrugs*

Guess how fast a car is doesn't matter to me that much....

As for practicality, I went from a 2000 mc LS to a 1987 MC LS as my daily driver. When the 2000 got flooded (and subsequently totaled), I found the '87 just about right away. Despite having over 125K on the clock, it has been very reliable with no major issues, unlike my 2000. Plus, it is a lot less expensive to own and drive.

Food for thought....



 
damnyankee36 
Member
Posts: 113
damnyankee36
Reg: 04-16-03
Re: 99 MC Z34. Real MC?
11-06-04 06:39 AM - Post#516075    
    In response to knightfan2691

To get that RWD feeling again, I would love to convert a 95-up MC to RWD and install a SBC! That would be cool!



 
MonteCarloChick 
Member
Posts: 17
MonteCarloChick
Age: 35
Loc: Buffalo, NY
Reg: 11-22-04
Re: 99 MC Z34. Real MC?
11-22-04 02:02 PM - Post#516076    
    In response to damnyankee36

The 5th Gens get no respect.

~Nichole~ I love Brandon http://www.cardomain.com/id/montecarlochica '96 Black Monte LS


 
anthony073 
Member
Posts: 353
anthony073
Loc: NY
Reg: 11-13-04
Re: 99 MC Z34. Real MC?
11-22-04 05:53 PM - Post#516077    
    In response to knightfan2691

At least it dosent have the miserable 3.4 liter that motor is a real piece of junk . The 3.8 is way more reliable and much better performing. When considering purchasing one of these cars (95-99) stay away from the 3.4 at all costs (Oil leaks, timing belt, bad location and hard to service plug wires)



 




Icon Legend Permissions Topic Options
Report Post

Quote Post

Quick Reply

Print Topic

Email Topic

904 Views
FusionBB
FusionBB™ Version 2.1
©2003-2006 InteractivePHP, Inc.
Execution time: 0.054 seconds.   Total Queries: 16   Zlib Compression is on.
All times are (GMT -0800) Pacific. Current time is 01:42 AM
Top