DeeDub
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12-25-22 04:21 PM - Post#2851622
I am looking for some direction regarding installation of the side panel moldings on my Impala, any help would be appreciated. There are several types of clips used, the one that I have not used before is the bathtub clip. It appears you push it into the panel, but then do you clip the top and then hit the bottom of the molding with a rubber mallet? I just had the car painted and I don't want to mess up the paint or the new moldings. Also, is there any layout that shows which type of clip goes where? Thanks in advance for your help!
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Oshawa65SS
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12-26-22 10:17 AM - Post#2851649
In response to DeeDub
Welcome to the group!
There are 66 guys that can help a lot more than me, but anyway here's a related page from the 66 assembly manual from Tom's Comprehensive Reference in the sticky section above the postings.
You might find illustrations of the clips on the AMK Products site if you search the part numbers in their glossary
Ryan
65 Impala SS Evening Orchid convertible 283 2V, PG, 10 bolt 3.08 open by PO, originally 3.36
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Oshawa65SS
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12-26-22 10:40 AM - Post#2851650
In response to Oshawa65SS
The AMK catalog:
https://www.amkproducts.com/catalogs/order/pdf-ca t...
The part number cross reference, scroll down further for GM:
https://www.amkproducts.com/wp-content/uploads/Ca t...
Ryan
65 Impala SS Evening Orchid convertible 283 2V, PG, 10 bolt 3.08 open by PO, originally 3.36
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DeeDub
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12-26-22 12:18 PM - Post#2851652
In response to Oshawa65SS
Thanks! I have the rocker panel molding pretty well dialed in. My quandary is the side panel moldings that use the "bathtub clips" and how to attach the molding. I'm afraid I will damage the moldings by clipping the top over the molding and then tapping on the bottom. If someone with more smarts that I can confirm that is the way to do it-"then damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" Thanks so much for including the page from the manual.
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 DHMelton
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12-26-22 01:59 PM - Post#2851660
In response to DeeDub
I am working from memory of 48 years ago, but to my recollection,
the center plastic clips are installed into the molding by sliding them in from the ends, and then the molding is tapped onto the rocker with the palm of your hand, allowing the clip nubs to seat and catch in the holes.
I took those moldings off my old car in 1975 for respray, so its been a while.
Doug
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DeeDub
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12-26-22 02:10 PM - Post#2851662
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That sounds right for the rocker panels. It's the quarter panel moldings I'm working on now. Any recollections there? Thanks!
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DHMelton
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12-26-22 02:57 PM - Post#2851663
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The break line moldings on the sides of the fenders and doors?
Those go over the metal posts, then I put the moldings on with the top part in position,and again, used the palm of my hand to seat the bottom part of the molding over the nylon retainers, pushing down as i hit the molding,.
I recall have some trepidation about installing them, but they went on OK.
Of course that back when a gallon of synthetic enamel paint was $65, and my only investment was the time removing trim, masking and reassemble, plus the paint cost. The spray labor was free by a friend of mine.
Doug
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DeeDub
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12-26-22 06:17 PM - Post#2851673
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Thanks Doug, you guys have all been great. I'm going to install the nylon clips on the quarters and doors. Then do like you said, hook the top lip of the molding on the clip and tap the bottom part on. The trepidation is real! You just hate to take a chance on damaging the molding or the brand-new paint.
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12-26-22 08:56 PM - Post#2851679
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On the rear quarters slip in the "bathtub" clips and open the doors. Loosely install the clips with the studs at the first and last round holes. Feed the molding between the door opening at the hinges and slide the trim over the clips one at a time. Depending on how many coats of paint, you may have to relieve the openings for the clips to go in.
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DeeDub
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12-28-22 07:09 AM - Post#2852922
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Thanks for the help. I'm going to give these things a try and hopefully not mess up the paint!
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jktucker92
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12-28-22 12:05 PM - Post#2852933
In response to DeeDub
For the plastic clips, I found that the repop ones I got didn't fit well. They held the moulding off the quarter panel by 1/16" and didn't seem to snap all the way in. I ended up sanding them off to match the few originals that survived and they fit OK. The ones I had were from classic Industries and came with my new moulding kit. Not sure if other vendors have one that fits better.
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DeeDub
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12-29-22 08:09 AM - Post#2852961
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I did get them from Classic Industries with the molding kit!!! I have none of the original clips, how much do you feel you ground off the clips? Once you had the clips installed how did you apply the molding to the clips? Thanks! Also, did you buy a repro bumper from CI? I did and the darn thing seems to be too wide for the car.
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DHMelton
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12-29-22 09:02 AM - Post#2852966
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Would you like me to measure my rear bumper center section?
Doug
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DHMelton
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12-29-22 10:46 AM - Post#2852973
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My rear bumper is 48 5/8"-48 3/4" center of seam to center of seam.
End pieces appear to be 13 7/8" center of seam to estimated widest part on the side.
Doug
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DeeDub
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12-29-22 11:00 AM - Post#2852974
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Thanks Doug, I am going to go measure the bumper here in a bit. I'll let you know what I come up with.
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DeeDub
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12-29-22 03:15 PM - Post#2852986
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Doug, measured my center section and it comes out to be 49 5/8"- one inch too wide! Classic Industries is looking into it for me. I'll let you know.
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DHMelton
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12-29-22 03:26 PM - Post#2852989
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Crap! I mistyped!
Mine is 49 5/8"
I am very sorry.
Doug
Edited by DHMelton on 12-29-22 03:30 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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DeeDub
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12-29-22 04:24 PM - Post#2852995
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Thanks for letting me know. I called and let CI know. Gotta be something I'm doing in mounting it.
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DHMelton
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12-29-22 08:41 PM - Post#2853003
In response to DeeDub
Maybe you have one of the very rare 63/64 scale Impalas they made that year? 
My bumper clearance to rear fenders is pretty tight. I didn't measure it but its probably 3/8" or 1/2" by eyeball.
Doug
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DeeDub
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12-30-22 09:07 AM - Post#2853015
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could be! But I think it's more like I'm not very good at assembling old Impalas. Did you replace the quarter fender moldings on your '66 and if so can you give me some insight as to how you got the moldings onto the bathtub clips? Like I said, I'm not very good at assembling old '66 Impalas! But as I move along, I'll be sure to post some pictures. Thanks for your help.
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jktucker92
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12-30-22 09:59 AM - Post#2853020
In response to DeeDub
I did a post about it a little over a year ago. There were two issues I had with installing the moulding, so move half way down the post to see the part about the clips. Below is the link, and shows the modifications I made to the clips I got from Classic Industries. It's not very obvious in the post, but I ground the flaps off the bottom of the clips to be the right height.
I can't remember for sure how I applied the moulding in the end, as I tried at least two methods. I think I installed the clip in the quarter panel, first, then rotated the moulding up, slid one side into the upper slot in the clip, then rotated it down and snapped it in place. I may have snapped the clips into the moulding first, then pushed them into the quarter panel and doors.
As far as the bumper, I had my originals re-chromed. Hopefully, you can work out that issue with Classic. I do know of junkyards that still have those if you can't get it to fit.
https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?t...
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 A White Sport Coupe
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01-01-23 05:13 PM - Post#2853092
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Hello Dee Dub.
From your original post it appears you're pushing the clip on first, then trying to snap the moulding over top. You install the clips in the moulding first by sliding them in from the rear access detent and moving them to the desired position one at a time. Then push the clip and moulding together into the holes one at a time. They should click in easily and be snug, No mallet should ever be used on these mouldings.
Here's what it should look like:
Edited by A White Sport Coupe on 01-01-23 05:32 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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DeeDub
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01-02-23 08:09 AM - Post#2853105
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Hey White Sport Coupe, thanks for the info and pic! Is this information applicable to the plastic "bathtub" clips for the door and quarter moldings also?
DeeDeb
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jktucker92
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01-02-23 09:41 AM - Post#2853106
In response to DeeDub
My car has oval holes and used snap-in plastic moulding clips for all but both ends for the quarter panel, door, and fenders. The clips you show can be used, and should work fine, but they're not the stock clips that I used.
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A White Sport Coupe
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01-02-23 05:18 PM - Post#2853126
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Dee Dub
Yes, the same for all clips. However, these plastic clips aren't very precise. I've had good luck with them by trimming the shaft part to fit the specific requirement. Sometimes they're too wide so you need to take a razor blade and make it narrower. Sometimes the v-shaped area isn't deep enough to make it snap in. Then you trim the V area back. See side photo of clip.
Edited by A White Sport Coupe on 01-02-23 05:18 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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02-19-23 10:35 AM - Post#2854703
In response to A White Sport Coupe
Those look like rocker trim clips. Original ones were light green color. They fit into round holes.
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