 995jim
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12-04-22 10:40 AM - Post#2850885
I am replacing the rear chevy emblem on my 65' wagon tailgate. When I received the new 1 I cant figure out what or why the new one has the 2 inner pins reversed. I looked online at used for sale and all are opposite of my original emblem pin locations. So I didnt want to drill new holes in a fresh paint job but I dont know what my options are. Any ideas?
thanks jim
Jim 
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Oshawa65SS
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12-04-22 11:30 AM - Post#2850891
In response to 995jim
If your "original" one doesn't have a part number on the back, it's an early bad repro a PO installed I'd suspect.
Ryan
65 Impala SS Evening Orchid convertible 283 2V, PG, 10 bolt 3.08 open by PO, originally 3.36
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 Magnetocheck
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12-04-22 03:54 PM - Post#2850903
In response to 995jim
Weird! This might take some detective work to figure out which is the "wrong" one. If the wrong part was installed by PO, I would expect you would find 4 holes in the sheet metal. Had a similar problem with some repro "correct" trim for my '65. Finally just bit the bullet and drilled a couple of new holes and plugged the old ones with butyl tape. Not happy about it but they don't show under the trim.  Like you, I found out that everything else available was made the same way.
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995jim
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12-04-22 05:27 PM - Post#2850908
In response to Oshawa65SS
well the car tailgate only has holes punched out for this pattern. The car was also purchased from the packard elect division in 74' by my grandfather then eventually passed it on to me, so I feel pretty good its not a repro knowing it was never replaced. Even looking inside of tailgate doesnt show any previous patch work for holes. I will look for stamp #'s though
Jim
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 Gaspains
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12-04-22 05:39 PM - Post#2850909
In response to 995jim
Just a thought and maybe someone here knows the answer. Are the chrome surrounds different between the coupe/sedan and the station wagon? Seems like I ran into this somewhere in the distant past. Maybe you received a coupe/sedan part?
Kevin
1965 Impala SS Coupe
Regal Red with Black Interior
L74 327
M-20
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 62BillT
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12-04-22 07:06 PM - Post#2850911
In response to Gaspains
Just a thought and maybe someone here knows the answer. Are the chrome surrounds different between the coupe/sedan and the station wagon? Seems like I ran into this somewhere in the distant past. Maybe you received a coupe/sedan part?
I believe that would be it. If the part is not an NOS Wagon part and if it's a reproduced part I doubt anyone is making one for a wagon. That is if the wagon emblem is different like it very well could be.
If there are numbers on the back of the original, research them online to see if it states wagon only.
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Oshawa65SS
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12-04-22 09:00 PM - Post#2850914
In response to 995jim
Don't drill new holes, just snap off the center pins and just use the pins on either end.
Fill with silicone at the center area and it will stick to your tailgate.
Ryan
65 Impala SS Evening Orchid convertible 283 2V, PG, 10 bolt 3.08 open by PO, originally 3.36
Build date Dec. 21 '64 Oshawa |
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Gaspains
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12-04-22 09:14 PM - Post#2850915
In response to Oshawa65SS
Kevin
1965 Impala SS Coupe
Regal Red with Black Interior
L74 327
M-20
3.31 Open, 12 bolt
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DHMelton
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12-04-22 09:21 PM - Post#2850916
In response to 62BillT
trying to keep costs down. Make just one part and market it as for different models also.
Its like the repop windshield wiper arms, original is L and R arms, repops are all LH arms. Subtle difference in the bend where the wiper attaches.
Doug
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Oshawa65SS
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12-05-22 12:20 AM - Post#2850920
In response to DHMelton
I encountered that issue when buying deluxe door panel with speaker wiring for my Mustang.
Originally, one side has orange and black wires, and the other white and black wires.
The repros were white and black wires for both sides.
These were good ones from Alloy Metal too, not the cheap Mr. Mustang ones.
Ryan
65 Impala SS Evening Orchid convertible 283 2V, PG, 10 bolt 3.08 open by PO, originally 3.36
Build date Dec. 21 '64 Oshawa |
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Magnetocheck
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12-05-22 10:43 AM - Post#2850932
In response to Oshawa65SS
Well, sure, if you want to do it the easy way! 
Bob
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995jim
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12-05-22 05:57 PM - Post#2850948
In response to Gaspains
I did in fact order sedan emblem thinking if its flat it will fit.(my error) I will have to see just for sake of it that the pins in the altered position could be in conflict with the inner workings of linkage or window mechanism. I know 1 thing and that is Im not drilling new holes, and I havent seen a repop listed as wagon.
Jim
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 toro455
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12-05-22 06:23 PM - Post#2850950
In response to 995jim
Jim,
You may want to consider getting the part you removed re-chromed. I've mentioned a place called Advanced Custom Chrome in Erie PA. They are very good, not cheap and they normally have a queue of people waiting. The owner is a straight shooter who has done a lot of pretty cutting age things to fix or duplicate parts.
https://advancedcustomchr ome.com/
Scott
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995jim
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12-06-22 10:09 AM - Post#2850967
In response to toro455
I believe the part is pot metal, can they do that?
Jim
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toro455
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12-06-22 01:47 PM - Post#2850972
In response to 995jim
I suspected in might be but I would ask them.
Here's a place in MN specifically talking about chrome plating pot metal:
https://www.iversonautomotive.com/services/types-o...
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jktucker92
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12-07-22 04:17 PM - Post#2851017
In response to toro455
I had some pot metal re-chromed at a place in Spokane, WA. Whether it's practical or not depends a lot on the piece. They were able to re-chrome the wing window parts of the car fairly easily, even with some pitting. However, the chrome surrounds for the rear tail lights were not practical to re-chrome because there were too many corners that wouldn't allow them to prep the metal properly and repair the pitting.
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995jim
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12-11-22 06:53 AM - Post#2851146
In response to toro455
I ended up dropping it off with a shop that felt they could salvage and chrome it. So of course I threw in a few other items while I was there. I will update after item is done.
Jim
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bigbowtielover
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12-17-22 06:31 PM - Post#2851381
In response to 995jim
Wagon only. The pins are in different places and the surround is flat compared to the rest of the models having a peak in middle. I have an NOS wagon one that I got from a guy that tried to make it fit a hardtop. After he cut the center pins off it still wouldn't fit. I think the pins on the end might also be positioned differently as well. My friend ordered an emblem for his '65 belair wagon and he got sent a hardtop one. They wouldn't take it back and they tried to tell him his car was wrong. I rechromed his original one and he used the plastic insert from the new one after minor mods.
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995jim
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01-11-23 10:33 AM - Post#2853329
In response to bigbowtielover
I think the change in pin location is related to the interference otherwise due to key controlled window switch and or linkage for in the center of gate
Jim
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bigbowtielover
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02-19-23 10:25 AM - Post#2854701
In response to 995jim
There is lots of room where it is mounted. Pin location in middle is opposite to hardtop/sedan/ convertible models. Like top right and lower left on one of them compared to top left and lower right. I think it was designed to fit that way so the correct part gets installed.
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