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Username Post: Radiator Location        (Topic#370138)
toneypenna 
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11-21-22 02:58 PM - Post#2850327    

Looking for some information on changing radiator location from the 8 to 6 location. I have a 56 with a 350 long water pump, currently has electric fan pusher in front of the radiator, looking to move radiator to gain room and use a fan with clutch. It looks like I would have to make or buy brackets to extend the radiator back to the current mounting bracket. The lower hose appears to fit where the cut out is for the petcock. Doesn't look like upper hose will clear the top of the radiator support. Do you have to raise the radiator? Is there a shroud available for this kind of setup? Does anyone know the numbers for the hoses that would have to be changed? This is my thinking, correct me if I'm wrong. I would think that many of you have done this and I would appreciate any experience and guidance you would be willing to share.
Thank you all in advance,
Jim



 


Bad56Sedan 
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11-21-22 09:23 PM - Post#2850338    
    In response to toneypenna

here are a few pics of how i did it,
make sure your hood support has the indention for the upper hose,
the lower radiator hose depending on which one you have is an issue,
you want the more expensive higher price hose, the cheaper hose is not curved enough as it turns to the radiator,
first pic you can see the relocation plates on the right, they may be 1/8"
second pic shows the rad moved forward,
third pic shows the upper radiator neck over the rad support,
there should be enough room for a fan clutch on a long water pump
I think Ecklers has a fan shroud that will work,
it will be frustrating to have a fan shroud, radiator relocation brackets, rad support to bolt together, but it can be done
(The mechanical fan is missing in the last 2 Pics, I changed to electric fans during the power steering project, you can see the crank, water pump and power steering pump pulleys are different also)

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VC56S 2 door Sedan, 42 Years


 
toneypenna 
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11-22-22 07:31 AM - Post#2850344    
    In response to toneypenna

Thank you for the detailed description and pictures, very helpful. The adapter brackets shown in the picture appear to be factory made, do you remember where you sourced them? I checked Ecklers and didn't come up with anything. On second thought I will probably go with the electric puller fan to eliminate having to deal with a shroud that would probably cause alignment problems with the fan. From your experience using a 350, do you recommend 2,3,or 4 core radiator? I currently have an original radiator with a pusher fan in front, horrible set up. I just bought this car haven't driven it and have no idea if it runs hot. Thanks again, Jm



 
Bad56Sedan 
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11-22-22 09:45 AM - Post#2850346    
    In response to toneypenna

Ecklers SKU 57-132134-1ALT #: 18-44
Chevy Radiator Relocation Kit, 1955-1957.
If I where to buy another radiator, I would buy the same Griffin I have now, Part Number: 6-00046
The radiator in the picture is a 2-core but the tubes are 1¼" and is for manual transmission.
The issue on these cars is air flow across the radiator with nonstock motors, even the six-blade fan in the first picture with a fan shroud was not enough,
There are 2, 10" Mishimoto Race Line High-Flow Fan 10 - MFG Part No. MMFAN-10HD on the other side of the radiator, the fan shroud used is Ecklers SKU 57-177452-1ALT #: 18-409 Chevy Fan Shroud, Aluminum, Down-Flow Radiator, For Dual Electric Fans, 6-Cylinder Position, 1955-1957.
cooling now is a non-issue even on the hottest Texas days, these fans can pull the temp down from 195° to 150° within minutes



VC56S 2 door Sedan, 42 Years


Edited by Bad56Sedan on 11-26-22 04:53 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Bad56Sedan 
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11-22-22 09:48 AM - Post#2850347    
    In response to Bad56Sedan

this did not work, rad in V8 position,
short water pump, griffin rad, 6 blade fan,
it looks good but there was just not enough air flow through the rad


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VC56S 2 door Sedan, 42 Years


Edited by Bad56Sedan on 11-22-22 10:09 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
toneypenna 
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11-22-22 03:04 PM - Post#2850356    
    In response to Bad56Sedan

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, You are a wealth of information. You're making what I thought was going to be a trial and error project so much easier for me, even supplying part #'s.
Won't be starting this project for a couple of weeks.
I'm just finishing up sorting some other mechanical problems I bought along with a really nice looking 56 210 2 dr HT. Just to name a few, Homemade clutch linkage with all components not where they are supposed to be. Saginaw 4 speed with welded modified shift arms that didn't work along with bad bearings, would you believe no rear crossmember etc.
Again many thanks for sharing your expertise with me. Jim



 
Bad56Sedan 
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11-22-22 05:38 PM - Post#2850365    
    In response to toneypenna

I forgot to add,
on the original V8 rad support
I had to remove the bottom baffle.
The lower tank on the Griffin interfered with it.
The reason I moved the radiator into the 6-cylinder position was to make room for a power steering pump.



VC56S 2 door Sedan, 42 Years


Edited by Bad56Sedan on 11-22-22 05:44 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
5Larry7 
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11-23-22 12:05 PM - Post#2850390    
    In response to toneypenna

I moved the radiator in my 57 to the 6-cylinder position using the above-mentioned parts. I did not have to modify anything to get my Be Cool aluminum radiator to fit. I then made my own shroud and mounted dual Spal fans to it. Works great and gives lots of room for whatever fan combination you may want to use.

'57 210, 327 cid, Holley MPFI, 700R4, A/C & more.
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Andy J 
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11-23-22 02:02 PM - Post#2850394    
    In response to toneypenna

Many years ago,I bought a '57 210 6 cylinder car and put a very hot 327 in it with the radiator in the stock 6 cylinder position.The only thing I remember doing was to put a fiberglass 6 blade flex fan with a 3" extension on it to get the fan a little closer to the radiator.I got longer hoses to mate it together,no clearance problems anywhere.No shroud or anything else to direct the airflow through the radiator.Even in the very hot Mississippi summers,it never got above 190 degrees,even in slow stop and go traffic.



 
toneypenna 
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11-27-22 10:53 AM - Post#2850589    
    In response to Bad56Sedan

Thank you for the added information

Jim



 
toneypenna 
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11-27-22 10:54 AM - Post#2850590    
    In response to 5Larry7

Thank You for your input.

Jim



 
toneypenna 
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11-27-22 10:55 AM - Post#2850591    
    In response to Andy J

Thank you for your input

Jim



 


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