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Username Post: What A Disappointment        (Topic#369174)
41wildthing 
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08-10-22 03:26 PM - Post#2845727    

A while back I talked about a good running 235 ci motor that I was able to acquire for free. My plans were to remove the 216 in my 1941 Special Deluxe and swap in the 235. BTW it was a 1958 model full pressure motor. My problem is, and I never knew of this prior, I was told after the 216 was removed, that the new motor would not fit my car since it has a Mustang II front axle. Bottom line has anyone heard of the problem of is someone blowing smoke up my rear? Thanks in advance....Phil



 


Tony1963 
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08-10-22 04:41 PM - Post#2845729    
    In response to 41wildthing

This is likely due to the engine mounts would be on the front apron on the Mustang II and not the front subframe?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-sw aps/18062...

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Keith_Knox 
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08-10-22 08:52 PM - Post#2845738    
    In response to 41wildthing

The 235 will fit where the 216 was. The 216 uses a front mount off of the front cover. You can drill the 235 front cover for the mount. Do not know why they would say it won't fit. You would nee to use the flywheel from the 216 as it is 6 volt. The water pump may have to be lowered and there is a plate to do that. Good luck.

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1971BB427 
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08-12-22 07:55 AM - Post#2845793    
    In response to Keith_Knox

I have a friend with a 1940 sedan delivery that's been retrofitted with a 235 from 1954. I just saw his car for the first time on Wed. so have to ask him what he did, or if it was already done and maybe look at it to see how it was fitted into his '40?


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy pass. coupe 350/700R4
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
41wildthing 
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08-14-22 04:02 AM - Post#2845893    
    In response to 1971BB427

Thanks Vall I appreciate anything you can impart to me. BTW did you ever find an appropriate suicide knob that was to your liking for your 1939 coupe? If you did. I'd like to see a pic if you can. Thanks.....Phil



 
1971BB427 
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08-17-22 08:29 AM - Post#2846028    
    In response to 41wildthing

Not yet Phil, but honestly haven't been looking really hard. I keep forgetting to ask a friend who does garage and estate sales, and specializes in old car items if he might have one.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy pass. coupe 350/700R4
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
JAS40 
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09-09-22 05:10 AM - Post#2847055    
    In response to 41wildthing

https://davisspeedequipme nt.com/product/10082-fron...



 
1971BB427 
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09-09-22 06:46 AM - Post#2847062    
    In response to 41wildthing

  • 41wildthing Said:
Thanks Vall I appreciate anything you can impart to me. BTW did you ever find an appropriate suicide knob that was to your liking for your 1939 coupe? If you did. I'd like to see a pic if you can. Thanks.....Phil



Update-It seems everything in the way of modern spinner knobs is for modern fat steering wheels! I got a simulated wood knob off Amazon, but it's much larger than my '52 Chev wheel, and using rubber to build up the difference didn't work well. It got tight, but when I turn with it the rubber gives and wants to let the knob flex.

My friend's sedan delivery was already converted to a 235 when he bought it, so he's unsure what was done. From what I could see looking it over, it appears it bolted right up to the 216 bellhousing, and mounts look factory too?


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy pass. coupe 350/700R4
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


Edited by 1971BB427 on 09-09-22 06:48 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
41wildthing 
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09-11-22 11:35 AM - Post#2847157    
    In response to 1971BB427

Thanks Vall. I appreciate you finding the information for me.....Phil



 
sidworks 
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09-19-22 08:27 PM - Post#2847556    
    In response to 41wildthing

  • 41wildthing Said:
A while back I talked about a good running 235 ci motor that I was able to acquire for free. My plans were to remove the 216 in my 1941 Special Deluxe and swap in the 235. BTW it was a 1958 model full pressure motor. My problem is, and I never knew of this prior, I was told after the 216 was removed, that the new motor would not fit my car since it has a Mustang II front axle. Bottom line has anyone heard of the problem of is someone blowing smoke up my rear? Thanks in advance....Phil


did you have the mustang II front in there with the 216 installed or was it put in after you took the 216 out. the mustang II would more than likely remove the orig. front mounting of the engine framewise and i don't know if there is a facility to put that front mount in. 58 engine has provision for side mounting so that may be the way to go.
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41wildthing 
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09-21-22 06:36 PM - Post#2847648    
    In response to sidworks

Sorry it took so long to respond to you, but the answer to your question is, the M II front axle was in the car with the 216 already in place and working fine. I think the problem was the individual I hired to do the swap didn't want to take the extra time to do it properly or he was in over his head and was looking for a way out. I decided to just trash the whole idea and keep the 216 unfortunately. It cost me a bunch of money which I wasn't happy about. Thanks....Phil



 


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