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Username Post: Calling a part by name        (Topic#368335)
junky 
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05-04-22 07:47 AM - Post#2840686    

Why is it that when people are attempting to find a solution to a problem they don't use the correct name for the part that they are discussing? I can understand that there are some parts that the average person might not no the name of, especially when it comes to driveline internal parts, but calling a distributor a "dizzy" or referring to a generator as a "jenny", just doesn't make any logical sense to me. These are just 2 of many that I have seen in these forums over the years. I know that some of our friends South of the equator have some colorful names for engine parts, and they use those, because it is part of their version of the English language, and I have no problem with calling a hood a bonnet, or a distributor a dizzy because it is universally accepted in their continent. However, if you live in North America, then please use the commonly accepted terms for these parts.


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Swifster 
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05-04-22 10:06 AM - Post#2840691    
    In response to junky

I work in the collision business writing the estimates for the vehicles that come into the shop. Every car has a fender, but there are some parts that every manufacturer calls something different. This can be a body part, a mechanical part or an electrical part. For the different estimating systems that are used, those name differences can be in the estimating system or the manufacturers.

Going back 40, 50 or 60 years, I'm sure the same differences existed back then. Of course, if the terms are slang, that just adds more differences.

Tom

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62BillT 
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05-04-22 11:26 AM - Post#2840696    
    In response to Swifster

An Inner Fender is one good example. Today they are called Fender Liners.

That said, I never did like the terms "dizzy" and "jenny" and never use them myself.

I do call a '55-'64 3rd Member a "Hogshead" though, lol.

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62sedan 
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05-04-22 11:59 AM - Post#2840698    
    In response to 62BillT

Didn't Chevrolet call a driveshaft - - - a prop shaft?

How about those that call a hub cap - - - a wheel cover? Or vice-versa. That one really irritates me.

Chuck






 
Tony1963 
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05-05-22 03:46 AM - Post#2840719    
    In response to 62sedan

European automakers typically refer to the driveshaft as a "propeller shaft" and have different names for components.





 
Carl1962 
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05-05-22 03:56 AM - Post#2840721    
    In response to junky

  • junky Said:
... I know that some of our friends South of the equator have some colorful names for engine parts, and they use those, because it is part of their version of the English language, and I have no problem with calling a hood a bonnet, or a distributor a dizzy because it is universally accepted in their continent. However, if you live in North America, then please use the commonly accepted terms for these parts.




G'day Junky me ol' china plate, Aussies drawl and if ya open ya mouth too far, flies get in, so we keep it short. Most blokes have a shortened nick name, Warren is Wazza, Murray is Muzza etc and if we can't mangle your first name we'll mangle your surname instead, and this applies to car parts like dizzy, carby and tranny. Boot and bonnet were borrowed from the Pommies, but aren't shortened for some reason. ... and if I had said all this with my drawling Aussie accent you probably wouldn't have understood a word !!! When I was in the Air Force and did exercises in the States, we had a hell of a time talking to yanks who couldn't understand Aussie accents, and it got way worse after we were shitfaced drunk.

The good news is I try really hard to make sure I use the American pronunciation for parts when I talk in here.

Cheers, Carl.

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Edited by Carl1962 on 05-05-22 03:59 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
rrausch 
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05-05-22 05:48 AM - Post#2840723    
    In response to Carl1962

  • Carl1962 Said:
......The good news is I try really hard to make sure I use the American pronunciation for parts when I talk in here.

Thank yuh mate.


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CATS 09 
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05-05-22 06:23 AM - Post#2840724    
    In response to rrausch

Aussie Carl1962, thanks for making me laugh so hard reading your post, very cool drawl. Up here in Maine, USA we don’t like opening our mouths wide either when talking because we can freeze to death losing all that hot air.
By the way, just wondering, which direction (CW/CCW) does water go, going down the drain south of the equator?
Where I am it is CCW.




 
junky 
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05-05-22 07:26 AM - Post#2840728    
    In response to CATS 09

Carl,

Please excuse Cats 09 for asking silly questions. The main reason to excuse him is that he is a Down Easter Mainiack.

Junk

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Lead sled 
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05-05-22 03:53 PM - Post#2840759    
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Well hell man, what about brake "PADS" on drum brake system :evil :

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05-05-22 05:52 PM - Post#2840760    
    In response to Lead sled

Earlier in my dealership career at GM stores we were always amazed that the GM Parts Division had different names for things than did the Car divisions (i.e Chev or Olds service divisions would call it a thing-a-ma-jig and parts division called it a doo-hickey...lots of arguments between parts and service folks when a "wrong" part was handed out).
BTW Junky, I thought they made it a sin to call them mainiacks! damn...just had a vison of a lobsterman in the famous Flashdance scene LOL

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05-06-22 03:26 AM - Post#2840765    
    In response to junky

One that gets me is tranny for transmission. Tranny these days means a whole different thing...

Vern

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CATS 09 
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05-06-22 04:32 AM - Post#2840767    
    In response to GreatNorthWoods

Hi Junky, losing a little hot air ‘r you, only playing man.



 
Mel Foye 
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05-06-22 11:40 AM - Post#2840784    
    In response to junky

I think some folks like to feel cool so they start using new words. I wonder about---eddies carbs from EDELBROCK. 60 YEARS ago in Iowa and Minnesota rear ends were axles, housings and the center section was called a pumpkin as in a 4:11 pumpkin.



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Chy 
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05-06-22 11:52 AM - Post#2840785    
    In response to 62BillT

  • 62BillT Said:
An Inner Fender is one good example. Today they are called Fender Liners.

That said, I never did like the terms "dizzy" and "jenny" and never use them myself.

I do call a '55-'64 3rd Member a "Hogshead" though, lol.



Inner fenders used to be made out of metal, now plastic or whatever that cardboard looking stuff is. Yep.. Hogshead or "chunk" for me... Some guys called it "pumpkin".

I worked at a GM dealer for years and we had similar issues there. The nomenclature of parts varied between parts and service. The service manual called it one thing and the parts catalogue called it another. Like my old buddy Stanley used to say, " You gotta be a detective to figure this stuff out."




 
Chy 
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05-06-22 11:55 AM - Post#2840786    
    In response to junky

Not much of a surprise really since we have about 25 different names for the male member. Human nature I guess.



 
wagonman100 
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05-07-22 10:18 AM - Post#2840832    
    In response to Chy

I work in the collision industry too. It can drive you insane with all of the different names given by manufacturers for the same parts. I never was much for using slang to name parts. I might use an abbreviation such as carb or trans. I might joke to my wife that I’m going out to the garage to hang out with a couple of Hookers and a dirty tranny.

Jay
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327 
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05-07-22 07:18 PM - Post#2840854    
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05-07-22 07:20 PM - Post#2840855    
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Keith Seymore 
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05-09-22 10:40 AM - Post#2840929    
    In response to junky

  • junky Said:
Why is it that when people are attempting to find a solution to a problem they don't use the correct name for the part that they are discussing? I can understand that there are some parts that the average person might not no the name of, especially when it comes to driveline internal parts, but calling a distributor a "dizzy" or referring to a generator as a "jenny", just doesn't make any logical sense to me. These are just 2 of many that I have seen in these forums over the years. I know that some of our friends South of the equator have some colorful names for engine parts, and they use those, because it is part of their version of the English language, and I have no problem with calling a hood a bonnet, or a distributor a dizzy because it is universally accepted in their continent. However, if you live in North America, then please use the commonly accepted terms for these parts.




Alrighty, then.

Henceforth, I will expect you to use the formal terms "spiral bevel hypoid gear set", "rear gear differential", "propeller shaft", and "Front of Dash weldment assembly".

One of the best things about designing these parts is getting to decide what to name them.

K


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Edited by Keith Seymore on 05-09-22 10:41 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Keith Seymore 
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05-09-22 10:43 AM - Post#2840930    
    In response to wagonman100

  • wagonman100 Said:
I work in the collision industry too. It can drive you insane with all of the different names given by manufacturers for the same parts. I never was much for using slang to name parts. I might use an abbreviation such as carb or trans. I might joke to my wife that I’m going out to the garage to hang out with a couple of Hookers and a dirty tranny.



I wish I had a dollar for every "hockey stick" and "donkey d ng" in the assembly plant.

K


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Edited by Keith Seymore on 05-09-22 10:46 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
The Factory Man 
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05-10-22 12:04 AM - Post#2840954    
    In response to Chy

When I wrote Service Manuals for General Motors we were aware of the problem with different names. We were always told to use Parts Catalogue names. The Engineers always had their own weird pet names for components!

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05-10-22 07:00 AM - Post#2840964    
    In response to Keith Seymore

"spiral bevel hypoid gear set", "rear gear differential", "propeller shaft", and "Front of Dash weldment assembly".

I agree. Lets make it official! :laugh :

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05-11-22 06:41 PM - Post#2841068    
    In response to rrausch

Let's not forget " control arm spherical joint "

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05-11-22 10:49 PM - Post#2841077    
    In response to docjns1

  • docjns1 Said:
Let's not forget " control arm spherical joint "



I love it when you talk dirty.




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05-12-22 08:41 PM - Post#2841123    
    In response to Keith Seymore

This is a fun topic. What’s the name for mirror? Rear visual aid device? Is the trunk a luggage compartment?

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05-16-22 06:22 AM - Post#2841263    
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I hate it when I hear or read “3 core” or” 4 core” when referring to a radiator when rows are what they mean….it’s 3 row or 4 row people!

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Chy 
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05-19-22 08:02 PM - Post#2841519    
    In response to rrausch

  • rrausch Said:
"spiral bevel hypoid gear set", "rear gear differential", "propeller shaft", and "Front of Dash weldment assembly".

I agree. Lets make it official! :laugh :


I think I am going to have to stay with, ring and pinion, back end, driveshaft and dash.



 
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05-19-22 08:11 PM - Post#2841520    
    In response to kingkreeton

  • kingkreeton Said:
This is a fun topic. What’s the name for mirror? Rear visual aid device? Is the trunk a luggage compartment?


Grandapa called the trunk a boot and the glove box was a dash pocket.
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05-20-22 05:59 AM - Post#2841526    
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I like Vice Grip Garages terminology
-Lightning Whirler, Lightning Hoses, and Sparkolator
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