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Username Post: Torque Tube question        (Topic#366697)
MotorCity57 
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10-14-21 08:08 AM - Post#2829143    

I need some help with the torque tube on my 54 BelAir convertible with powerglide transmission. I've had my mechanic working on the drive train, including a rebuild of the powerglide, which was done by a local transmission shop. Now, he is having trouble re-assembling the torque tube - there is a gap where the torque tube meets the ball seal (see photos). He installed the recommended 2 shims - adding more shims would only worsen the problem. Any idea why we have this gap? Could there be something missing from the transmission rebuild?

Thanks in advance,
John W.

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10-14-21 10:37 AM - Post#2829153    
    In response to MotorCity57

I think there is supposed to be a cork seal in there. I could be misremembering though.

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10-14-21 11:41 AM - Post#2829155    
    In response to arkansas

You are correct sir, needs a cork seal,

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10-14-21 12:27 PM - Post#2829161    
    In response to 2D51STYDLX

https://www.nationalchevyassoc.com/1949_1954_unive...
Note the cork seal pictured. It is tapered on the inside, or should be to match the radius of the ball on the slip yoke.

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MotorCity57 
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10-14-21 06:37 PM - Post#2829183    
    In response to eplantage

Thank you all. I'll relay that info to my mechanic.

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chevyivar 
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10-14-21 10:51 PM - Post#2829192    
    In response to MotorCity57

Seems to me that you allready have the cork installed.
Was the same on my 54conv.
The torque tube will slide backwards rubb/seal against the cork when you tighten the round nut.
Off topic, but what is the prices in the US overhauling a 54 powerglide?


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Edited by chevyivar on 10-14-21 10:53 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
MADMIKE66 
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10-15-21 12:08 AM - Post#2829194    
    In response to chevyivar

I would say chevyivar is correct, tighten the round Sleeve nut but make sure the small cork seal and washers are inserted in the sleeve nut. but then again you might need less shims.



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10-15-21 02:35 AM - Post#2829196    
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I'v been looking over your photos and think you are missing the ball joint seat and "O" ring seal. sorry i can t find a photo of it. It is fitted before the shims.
it looks like a dish with no bottom and bolt holes on the rim.



Edited by MADMIKE66 on 10-15-21 03:00 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
MotorCity57 
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10-15-21 04:58 AM - Post#2829199    
    In response to MADMIKE66

Are you referring to the black ring in the attached kit?
Link

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Edited by MotorCity57 on 10-15-21 05:05 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
MotorCity57 
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10-15-21 05:02 AM - Post#2829200    
    In response to chevyivar

chevyivar: we had trouble finding a shop to rebuild the powerglide. We ended up using the services of an 80-year old mechanic who was about to retire. I think my tranny was his last rebuild. My cost was around $800.

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MADMIKE66 
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10-15-21 05:29 AM - Post#2829202    
    In response to MotorCity57

yes thats the "O" ring that goes on u jount ball seat. it talks about this seal and seat that im 100% sure you are missing in the work shop manual. have a look that the link.
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/shop/1949_53/...



 
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10-15-21 09:45 AM - Post#2829211    
    In response to MotorCity57

This is a photo of a 1951 PowerGlide and I'm not sure how that might differ from a 1954, but my guess is you are missing the ball joint front seat [36]. You can see the small screw driver prying it away from the transmission case in the photo below. I believe MADMIKE66 made reference to it in an earlier post along with the "O" ring [37]. Some folks get a better idea when a visual is provided.

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MotorCity57 
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10-15-21 06:04 PM - Post#2829232    
    In response to RAM_51

Excellent help - thank you all. We (mechanic and I) have ordered parts and will hopefully complete the project next week. I will report back then.

John W.

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