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Username Post: Factory fuel injected 58 Impala        (Topic#366675)
DZAUTO 
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10-11-21 04:10 PM - Post#2828991    

Some of you may (or may not) remember I posted that I was getting what was supposed a FACTORY built 58 FI Impala.
The FI unit was removed and replaced with a 4bl carb setup (first thing that makes it suspect).
A few months ago I got the FI unit, air cleaner assembly and multiple misc parts. The FI unit is now rebuilt and sitting on the fixture ready to be installed.
The gentleman who owned the car passed away 2-3mo ago, and his widow called to see if I would still install the FI unit and related parts on the car.
Well, this morning a friend of the family delivered the Impala on a trailer---------------12, 000mi on the odometer. It is an ULTRA nice Impala, has clear plastic covers on what APPEARS to be original, virgin seat covers.
So far, I have removed the dist, 4bl carb and intake manifold. Next step is to thoroughly clean the top of the engine to assure good gasket sealing and then start installing the FI unit, air cleaner and misc parts that SEEM to be unique pass car ONLY FI related parts.
I have NEVER in my life seen a GENUINE factory FI 58 Impala, SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I can only guess how one should look. As I said, there are various parts that appear to be pass car ONLY FI parts. A few weeks ago, I was running thoughts through my head about what to look for when I got the car. One of those things is the connector on the firewall wire harness that would connect to the elec wires on the FI unit. THAT CONNECTOR IS ON THE CAR AND APPEARS TO BE PART OF A FACTORY CORRECT WIRE HARNESS!
So, the more I examine this 58 Impala, it seems to be the real deal.
I'll update as time goes by.


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DZAUTO 
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10-11-21 04:11 PM - Post#2828992    
    In response to DZAUTO

Oh ya, and 3 more things it has:
It is a Flint block (FI engines ONLY came from Flint, no FI engines were built at Tonawanda).
EC on the engine stamp pad, correct code for FI and Turboglide, and it has the exhaust crossover pipe under the oil pan. The car has a Turboglide ------------------ NOT a PG!
The more I look at it and the more FI related parts I run across, make it appear as the real deal!!!

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Lead sled 
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10-11-21 08:19 PM - Post#2829005    
    In response to DZAUTO

Looks great! A rare find

Late yr model (Dec. 51 Bel Air/ 52 trim), with a basically stock 68 Camaro SS350/300hp Turbo Fire Edelbrock 1405,Saginaw 4spd/355 geared 55/6 Chevy rear.2,1st places, and 1 top five award trophies so far
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DonSSDD 
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10-12-21 02:06 AM - Post#2829006    
    In response to Lead sled

Wow Tom, this is a special car and you are the fellow who should have his hands on it.

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10-12-21 05:58 AM - Post#2829011    
    In response to DonSSDD

Looking good keep us posted.



 
LtFrankDrebin 
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10-12-21 08:16 PM - Post#2829061    
    In response to DZAUTO

Very nice! And one of my favorite color combos.

'56 210 Townsman wagon 6cyl/3spd OD | '58 Impala Sierra Gold 348


 
DZAUTO 
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10-13-21 06:40 AM - Post#2829074    
    In response to LtFrankDrebin

So far, so good.
And as can be seen, it has PS and PB.


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DonSSDD 
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10-13-21 08:12 AM - Post#2829078    
    In response to DZAUTO

Temperature sensor on passenger side, never saw that before. Or that style of master cylinder.

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DZAUTO 
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10-13-21 12:13 PM - Post#2829092    
    In response to DonSSDD

Don,
ALLLLLL Fuel injection adapter plates ONLY have the temp sender on the right side----------------AND THE TEMP WIRE IS THE PERFECT LENGTH TO REACH! Just one more indicator that it is the real deal.



 
SSuper Dave 
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10-13-21 04:36 PM - Post#2829109    
    In response to DZAUTO

Tom, what is that round hole in front of the block that looks like a distributor hole?

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8683jb 
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10-13-21 04:48 PM - Post#2829111    
    In response to DZAUTO

What a time capsule! How cool! Regarding the picture with the carburetor - how'd they put oil in it? There doesn't appear to be an oil fill tube and the valve covers are closed.



 
DZAUTO 
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10-13-21 05:33 PM - Post#2829115    
    In response to SSuper Dave

EARLY blocks had that hole. It was directly under the hole in the intake for the oil fill tube. It was simply eliminated on later block castings


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DZAUTO 
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10-13-21 05:36 PM - Post#2829116    
    In response to 8683jb

  • 8683jb Said:
------------------------- ---------------------- - how'd they put oil in it? There doesn't appear to be an oil fill tube and the valve covers are closed.



THAT HAS EXACTLY BEEN MY QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
Maybe put a tiny funnel in the dipstick tube and pour it in there????????????????




 
64ss409 
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10-14-21 07:38 AM - Post#2829140    
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If I am seeing this right it looks like the oil fill tube would go in the front of the intake and angle to the passenger side. In the newer blocks the oil would go in the valley. There are drain holes.
Ron

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DonSSDD 
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10-14-21 08:02 AM - Post#2829142    
    In response to 64ss409

  • 64ss409 Said:



If I am seeing this right it looks like the oil fill tube would go in the front of the intake and angle to the passenger side. In the newer blocks the oil would go in the valley. There are drain holes.
Ron


Ron, not sure if your oil fill comment related to the earlier post asking where did they put oil in? In the picture above with the carburetor that was on this car, there is no oil fill tube and that is what the oil fill comments referred to.

Did you see Tom’s earlier separate post about this car?

https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?t...

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64ss409 
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10-14-21 08:20 AM - Post#2829144    
    In response to DonSSDD

My mistake. I see the problem now.

Ron

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1962 SS convertible, 327/250 4 spd
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DZAUTO 
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10-14-21 12:18 PM - Post#2829159    
    In response to 64ss409

The adapter plate for ALLLLLLLLLLL Rochester FI units has the oil till tube facing the right (pass) side.
The 2x4 manifolds also has the oil tube facing the right side.
Most all other manifolds (iron and alum) have the oil fill tube facing the left side.


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DZAUTO 
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10-14-21 12:24 PM - Post#2829160    
    In response to DZAUTO

Here is an iron and an alum Chevrolet single 4bl manifold with the oil fill pointing to the left.
The alum intake manifold is an early Z28 intake which I had on the 389 in the 51 before I put the 2x4 setup back on.

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VIN 58 
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10-15-21 02:07 PM - Post#2829222    
    In response to DZAUTO

Tom I noticed the one piece bumpers and that makes it a California car. That is one awesome survivor. Vin



 
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10-15-21 03:39 PM - Post#2829223    
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dz i was under impression all 58 smallblocks were staggered valve cover heads?thanks for any enlightment




 
DZAUTO 
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10-15-21 05:38 PM - Post#2829229    
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  • grechevy Said:
dz i was under impression all 58 smallblocks were staggered valve cover heads?thanks for any enlightment




ALLLLLLLLLLLL, repeat, ALLLLLLLLLLLLL 55-59 SB heads had the staggered bolt pattern for the valve covers--------------UNTIL , PAY ATTENTION, UNTIL late 59. In late 59, the heads were changed to the straight across bolt pattern.

Now, with that said, the 400 in my 56 Corvette has 1966 2.02 heads with a bolt pattern for staggered bolt pattern valve covers. How did that happen?



 
SSuper Dave 
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10-15-21 07:04 PM - Post#2829234    
    In response to DZAUTO

Same way it has the older markings on the ends of the heads?

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DZAUTO 
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10-16-21 04:56 PM - Post#2829300    
    In response to SSuper Dave

A little more progress and a question about a vacuum fitting.


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This is a vacuum fitting which was on the AFB carb. I can only guess it was on the FI unit previously. There has to be THREE vacuum sources for this car: one for the pwr brk, another for the transmission and a 3rd for the distributor vacuum advance. Right? SOOOOOOOOOOO, has anyone seen this kind of vacuum fitting? It obviously has a one way diaphragm or check valve for the pwr brk. I can blow on one end and air flows. I can blow on the other end and no air flow.




 


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