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Username Post: Windshield Scratch        (Topic#365912)
ampico-kid 
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07-26-21 03:16 PM - Post#2823933    

My 63 Impala had a perfect windshield until yesterday. I never take it out in the rain, but yesterday we got caught in an unexpected quickie shower. I turned on the wipers, and to my horror the passenger side wiper assembly broke apart and before I could shut it down wiped across the passenger side windshield once or twice. We pulled over and waited for the rain to stop and then headed home. On closer examination I discovered that the broken assembly scratched the glass enough that I can just catch my fingernail on it. To say I was sick over this is an understatement.

Is there a way to repair something like this? It's not just a light scuff, but I don't think it's a really deep scratch either. Have made a few inquiries at local auto glass places, but not much good news there. They're more interested in replacing glass. Any suggestions? Thanks.



 


gcrkfrd 
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07-26-21 04:10 PM - Post#2823937    
    In response to ampico-kid

My 52 had the windshield etched by Time and Sun, I bought some powdered Glass polish on E-bay, and used a random orbit polisher for about three days. They say that if you can hang a finger nail in it it is too deep, but mine came out good enough to drive. Used a lot of Rain-X after that.

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dcairns 
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07-26-21 04:27 PM - Post#2823939    
    In response to ampico-kid

I have a self inflicted gouge in my rear glass (making speaker holes with a dremel back in the 80's). When restored my 64 about 9 years ago, I discovered that they did not reproduce the rear glass for the 4-door sedan (at least at that time, don't know about now). So the body shop had their glass guy try polishing it out. He was able to reduce it, but not eliminate it. And there is a faint bend to the glass around the area he was polishing. If it was the front windshield, it would be very noticeable. On the rear, I never notice it, so the result is good enough.

So it is possible to get rid of some scratches. If you can't do it yourself, keep looking for a glass guy that will try it.

- Dave
1964 Impala 4-door sedan



 
steve65 
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07-26-21 05:15 PM - Post#2823944    
    In response to ampico-kid

Keep in mind whatever you use to try and remove it with will leave a trough in the glass. Here’s a thought, get an old windshield (anything you can get cheap from a glass place) that they are discarding, scratch it, and practice building up the scratch with epoxy? Liquid clear nail polish or something.
Just a thought.
Steve

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turbo38s10 
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07-27-21 04:15 AM - Post#2823956    
    In response to steve65

With all the chip filling technology they have to maybe they can do something similar for the scratch. Worth call one of the glass palces to see.



 
ampico-kid 
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07-27-21 06:09 AM - Post#2823960    
    In response to turbo38s10

  • turbo38s10 Said:
With all the chip filling technology they have to maybe they can do something similar for the scratch. Worth call one of the glass palces to see.



That was my thought too, but so far no luck with the auto glass places in my area.



 
ampico-kid 
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07-27-21 06:11 AM - Post#2823961    
    In response to steve65

  • steve65 Said:
Keep in mind whatever you use to try and remove it with will leave a trough in the glass. Here’s a thought, get an old windshield (anything you can get cheap from a glass place) that they are discarding, scratch it, and practice building up the scratch with epoxy? Liquid clear nail polish or something.
Just a thought.
Steve



I hear you, but would rather have someone who knows what they're doing attempt a repair.




 
ampico-kid 
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07-27-21 06:12 AM - Post#2823962    
    In response to dcairns

  • dcairns Said:

So it is possible to get rid of some scratches. If you can't do it yourself, keep looking for a glass guy that will try it.




I'm trying, but so far no luck.



 
rrausch 
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07-27-21 06:02 PM - Post#2824003    
    In response to ampico-kid

From working in a good glass shop for some years, I can tell you removing a scratch so it can't be seen is a hit-and-miss proposition, and mostly a miss. Where are you located tho. Maybe someone here knows of a good glass place close to you.

If you want to try it yourself, you might give EtchBusters, in L.A. a call and ask them what's involved. (323) 231-1669

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
ampico-kid 
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07-27-21 07:45 PM - Post#2824013    
    In response to rrausch

  • rrausch Said:
From working in a good glass shop for some years, I can tell you removing a scratch so it can't be seen is a hit-and-miss proposition, and mostly a miss. Where are you located tho. Maybe someone here knows of a good glass place close to you.

If you want to try it yourself, you might give EtchBusters, in L.A. a call and ask them what's involved. (323) 231-1669



I'm located in Harpers Ferry WV. About an hour from DC and Baltimore. Thanks for the EtchBusters tip. If I get desperate I'll give them a call. Hopefully I can find someone who is willing to work on it. So far...no luck. The glass places I've called aren't even returning my phone calls. Very disheartening.




 
rrausch 
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07-28-21 06:30 AM - Post#2824031    
    In response to ampico-kid

Take the car to them instead of calling. Let them see what they'd be dealing with. That said, if the scratch really really really bugs you, it might be worth a new windshield.

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
ampico-kid 
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07-28-21 07:53 PM - Post#2824076    
    In response to rrausch

  • rrausch Said:
if the scratch really really really bugs you, it might be worth a new windshield.




I hear you, but having gone through hell pulling and reinstalling the rear window trying to get it waterproofed, I don't know if I could go through it all again with the front. I'm still weighing my options. Luckily the scratch is on the passenger side, so I don't have to look through it every time I drive the car.



 
kingkreeton 
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07-30-21 06:18 AM - Post#2824155    
    In response to ampico-kid

  • ampico-kid Said:
  • rrausch Said:
if the scratch really really really bugs you, it might be worth a new windshield.




I hear you, but having gone through hell pulling and reinstalling the rear window trying to get it waterproofed, I don't know if I could go through it all again with the front. I'm still weighing my options. Luckily the scratch is on the passenger side, so I don't have to look through it every time I drive the car.



The front is much easier to seal and get waterproof than the rear. The rear tends to give folks issues, even professional shops unless they have an old school guy who actually has some finesse skills, not the 20 year old plug and play guys.


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Edited by kingkreeton on 07-30-21 06:19 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
ampico-kid 
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07-30-21 02:26 PM - Post#2824171    
    In response to kingkreeton

  • kingkreeton Said:
  • ampico-kid Said:
  • rrausch Said:
if the scratch really really really bugs you, it might be worth a new windshield.




I hear you, but having gone through hell pulling and reinstalling the rear window trying to get it waterproofed, I don't know if I could go through it all again with the front. I'm still weighing my options. Luckily the scratch is on the passenger side, so I don't have to look through it every time I drive the car.



The front is much easier to seal and get waterproof than the rear. The rear tends to give folks issues, even professional shops unless they have an old school guy who actually has some finesse skills, not the 20 year old plug and play guys.




I know exactly what you're referring to with the "old school guy" idea. That's exactly who I had do my rear window...TWICE. The first time it leaked worse after it was reinstalled than it did before he pulled it, so we pulled it again. The second time it still leaked but not as bad. I didn't want to pull it a third time so I sealed it from the outside. I think it's watertight now, but the chrome pieces that go around the rear window were on so tight, he damaged the roof paint pulling it off and putting it on, so I had to have the roof repainted. I just don't know if I'm up to this level of grief again for the front.

Does anyone make new windshields for these cars? It's a 63 SS with tinted windows (factory air).




 
dalescars 
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08-09-21 06:27 AM - Post#2824785    
    In response to ampico-kid

Check Auto City Classic, Inc. for a new windshield. 800-828-2212. I bought a windshield from them for my 1959 Impala.



 
turbo38s10 
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08-09-21 12:37 PM - Post#2824818    
    In response to dalescars

I saw something on Road Kill Garage where they used a product called sparkle I believe. It might work if it only superficial. I think this is it.

https://www.dkhardware.com/sparkle-cleaner-and-s ta...



 
pvs409 
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08-09-21 06:40 PM - Post#2824848    
    In response to ampico-kid

  • ampico-kid Said:
  • kingkreeton Said:
  • ampico-kid Said:
  • rrausch Said:
if the scratch really really really bugs you, it might be worth a new windshield.




I hear you, but having gone through hell pulling and reinstalling the rear window trying to get it waterproofed, I don't know if I could go through it all again with the front. I'm still weighing my options. Luckily the scratch is on the passenger side, so I don't have to look through it every time I drive the car.



The front is much easier to seal and get waterproof than the rear. The rear tends to give folks issues, even professional shops unless they have an old school guy who actually has some finesse skills, not the 20 year old plug and play guys.




I know exactly what you're referring to with the "old school guy" idea. That's exactly who I had do my rear window...TWICE. The first time it leaked worse after it was reinstalled than it did before he pulled it, so we pulled it again. The second time it still leaked but not as bad. I didn't want to pull it a third time so I sealed it from the outside. I think it's watertight now, but the chrome pieces that go around the rear window were on so tight, he damaged the roof paint pulling it off and putting it on, so I had to have the roof repainted. I just don't know if I'm up to this level of grief again for the front.

Does anyone make new windshields for these cars? It's a 63 SS with tinted windows (factory air).




Auto City has been selling windshields for classics for many years.
here is a 63-64 Hardtop windshield
https://www.autocityclassic.com/1963-1964-impala-c...

Comments on back glass and windshield installation:

The front or back glass is installed dry with high quality weatherstrip onto the pinch weld with a rope and sealer is installed after the glass is installed on the outside of the windshield rubber using a flexible sealer pushed into the area ( urethane is not used.....).
The flexible sealer is so the reveal molding clips still work and it does the final sealing of the glass like GM did when the cars were new.

I have 2- 62 Impala 2 door hardtops -the back glass leaked in one of the Hardtops (without sealer on the outside of gasket). The glass was reinstalled with dry Steele Rubber Products gasket (the best) and sealed after installation as instructions I received from a 40 year glass installer who did 3 of my 62's. I did the same on a 63 Impala Hardtop rear glass that leaked like it did not have a gasket.

No leaks on my 62's with flexible sealer(like the factory did it when new) installed against the painted pinchweld and the new gasket.

Paul


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62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
rrausch 
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08-10-21 05:00 AM - Post#2824861    
    In response to pvs409

Ditto on using flexible sealers. When I worked in the glass shop this is all we ever used. CR Laurence Windshield and Repair sealant. It will NEVER dry out. The trouble with most urethanes or silicones--the hardware store variety anyway, is they will eventually harden and pull away from the gasket, causing a leak. When that happens there is no amount of clean-up and re-sealing that will work. You'll have to install a new gasket and seal it properly. Now today there ARE professional silicone windshield sealants available, but you won't find them at Home Depot or Lowes. I believe Sikasil makes them... not sure, but they make a lot of specialty silicones.





1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
Mercedes 
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08-10-21 05:22 AM - Post#2824865    
    In response to rrausch

I agree. The cost of trying to get rid of the scratch against a new windshield is likely going to go with a new windshield.

Anytime you "remove" material to smooth out the glass there will be a noticeable area where the light will bend, you'll see the correction.

I have seen glass installers on those old rubber gasket windshields and they use a lot of soapy water to make things slide around easier and they are professionals who know how to install the glass.

An old gasket is so hard it will probably break apart anyway.



 


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