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Username Post: 1965 Impala SS Codes        (Topic#365571)
GasvilleFUN 
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06-20-21 01:10 PM - Post#2821861    

My question is regarding 1965 Impala SS codes. I have an opportunity to purchase a nice 1965 Impala SS 396 4-Speed from an estate. The trim tag includes a "correct" 16637 code (SS V8). The body VIN tag starts with 16537 (SS 6 cylinder). The current owner (deceased) has owned the car for 36 years. The VIN tag and Trim tag are both correctly riveted to the car, and look original. The title VIN matches the body VIN (6 cylinder). The engine is era correct IV 396 engine. Is it possible for an assembly plant to attach a 16637 trim tag and a 16537 VIN plate to the same car?



 


GasvilleFUN 
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06-21-21 04:10 AM - Post#2821884    
    In response to GasvilleFUN

I've noticed several people have read my post, but no one has replied. Do you think that at some point in history, the VIN plate was swapped from another car (a 6 cylinder SS) and attached to this V8 SS car? Should I be concerned? The title matches the body VIN plate, but not the car trim plate.



 
66cayne 
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06-21-21 06:41 AM - Post#2821889    
    In response to GasvilleFUN

the factory made plenty of mistakes but in this day and age there is plenty of subtrafuge concerning the true identity of classic cars. Should you be concerned? Not necessarily, unless your intention is to flip the car. There are hidden VINs located in different areas of the body and frame that can help your identification. If you can, post a pic of the trim tag so we can help decide if it is authentic. You can also contact the on-line community called 'Supercar Registry', link below. They are very good at spotting authentic cars from something that is not kosher.
https://www.yenko.net/



 
toro455 
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06-21-21 08:30 AM - Post#2821893    
    In response to GasvilleFUN

One of the members, Warren, also has a lot of recently found "orphaned" documentation. If your VIN is on the list he has the documentation and it would tell you exactly what the car was built with. See the following link for '65 specific:
https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?t...

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steve65 
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06-21-21 09:03 AM - Post#2821894    
    In response to GasvilleFUN

This is from Impalas.org, thought it may help.

Here is a chart showing all the body style numbers for each of the years. The majority of the assembly plants showed an 8 cyl. body style on the cowl tag, regardless of the engine size. However, some plants showed a 6 cyl. designation if the car was to have such an engine. When trying to figure out if your car had an L6 or V8, always go by the VIN number.



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Steve Duncan
66 Impala 2dr Coupe
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work in progress



 
steve65 
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06-21-21 09:07 AM - Post#2821895    
    In response to steve65

Also there are a few tell tale signs such as gas line size, front spring size and a host of other 'small' differences that a factory big block would have over a six cylinder factory car.

Steve Duncan
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Not sure of color yet
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59fins 
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06-30-21 11:59 AM - Post#2822377    
    In response to GasvilleFUN

  • GasvilleFUN Said:
My question is regarding 1965 Impala SS codes. I have an opportunity to purchase a nice 1965 Impala SS 396 4-Speed from an estate. The trim tag includes a "correct" 16637 code (SS V8). The body VIN tag starts with 16537 (SS 6 cylinder). The current owner (deceased) has owned the car for 36 years. The VIN tag and Trim tag are both correctly riveted to the car, and look original. The title VIN matches the body VIN (6 cylinder). The engine is era correct IV 396 engine. Is it possible for an assembly plant to attach a 16637 trim tag and a 16537 VIN plate to the same car?



The engine is era correct IV 396 engine? as in there is not a partial VIN stamp on right front block?
or do you know it's not the original engine?
And does it have a "325" speed? it would be stamped and dated as well on main case, 36 years ago, people we not so conscious on numbers. I have a 325 Muncie stamped in my shed, a St. Louis built car.

Does it have 12 bolt? , and 4 link in rear?
all of these have stamps / codes.

First run of new body style, there are usually some things that have not been not smoothed out yet.

Someone mentioned Warrens Site or email him with your info tranenut@gmail.com Link is the site
His site is pretty detailed, although some plants don't put certain codes or none at all below paint line, (he would know them or again his site might tell you.
And the VIN is not on the data plate the body style is, it is a body # for plant usage sequence number.
color of interior,
month and week of build usually on upper left corner
I'm sure he addresses this on his site, Warren comes from a long history of GM B body cars enthusiasts, and his Dad was part of the NJ Late Great Chevy group that has done research on our cars for a long time, (decades) he documents every car he can so he can compare them.
So the more info you have the more he can help.
He usually like a pic of the VIN, and pic of the cowl tag or data tag.
If you have the motor stamp, and casting dates and casting numbers, a lot of info put together can be sometimes can be figured out.


"I've noticed several people have read my post, but no one has replied. Do you think that at some point in history, the VIN plate was swapped from another car (a 6 cylinder SS) and attached to this V8 SS car? Should I be concerned? The title matches the body VIN plate, but not the car trim plate."

It's a difficult subject to tackle, when different plants did things in different ways is probably why you didn't get any response's at first

Good luck

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Bill H.
67 SS




 


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