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Username Post: look alike alternators        (Topic#364791)
blueflame 
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04-01-21 01:51 PM - Post#2817288    

anyone out there had experience with the look alike alternators available from authentic automotive products? Is it worth the price difference or is there much of a price difference? My orig. generator needs replacing. Thanks



 


acardon 
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04-01-21 05:21 PM - Post#2817300    
    In response to blueflame

When you consider that the regulator is built into the look alike, the price includes both units and a lot more amp output. They also have them with a power steering pump splined shaft.

Don
66 Corvair (driving)
57 2dr HT (driving)
56 2dr HT (waiting to be restored)


 
DZAUTO 
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04-08-21 08:46 AM - Post#2817699    
    In response to blueflame

Steve Pratt (Jalapeno on the forum) in the Dallas area is who has them made.
I know Steve personally and he is a stand up guy, so I would have no issues with his look alike alternators.
Plus, as mentioned, the output would be much greater than any standard car generator. If retaining the appearance of a generator, but more elec output is important, this would be the way to go. Otherwise, converting to a conventional alternator would be an excellent way to go and a little cheaper.
On my 51 Chevy (originally a 6v system), I converted to 12v and an alternator back in the 60s, primarily because I added air cond and needed more elec out put. The alternator I used had the external voltage regulator and it has worked great for over 55yrs. I think I had that alternator rebuilt one time, but the regulator is the one I installed in 1966.

The alternator mounting bracket mounts to the left exhaust manifold just as a generator bracket would mount.


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Jens 
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04-08-21 12:18 PM - Post#2817710    
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Nice dual quad batwing air cleaner Tom. What’s the story on that is it an original or a reproduction?



 
DZAUTO 
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04-08-21 12:38 PM - Post#2817711    
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  • Jens Said:
Nice dual quad batwing air cleaner Tom. What’s the story on that is it an original or a reproduction?



It's a repo.
Here is the story ------------------- AS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME.
MANY years ago, when a desire was emerging for Batwings, someone, I do not know who, reproduced a quantity of Batwings, and that was all. Then some years later, when a demand for Batwings grew, SOMEONE, again, I do not know who, acquired the tooling for the original reproductions, refurbished the tooling, and began making Batwings. I do not have an original Batwing, so I have nothing to compare it to. But inspecting very closely the repo that I have, it APPEARS to be excellent quality. It's on an ugly, rusty, ratty 51 Chevy 4dr, with a solid Chevy driveline, Muncie and a very healthy SB389, so who cares how accurate it is!
The 2x4 setup on my 51 Chevy was my very first performance upgrade on a small block (previous to V8s, I was modifying 261 6cyl engines) back in the mid-60s. When the 56 Corvette came along, the 2x4s came off the 51 and went on a 327 in the Vette. The 51 got a Z28 intake and Holley. In the late 70s, the 327 was replaced with a built 350 and then an FI unit (and later a built SB400). The 2x4s went on the shelf over 35yrs ago.
About 3yrs ago, I built a 389SB to replace the 350 in the 51. I decided to pull the 2x4s (sitting for 35yrs) off the shelf and put them (FINALLY) back on the 51. At that time I started searching for a Batwing (NO reason, just vanity). They were priced out of sight. SOMEONE, again, I don't remember who, turned me on the Eklers offering of a repo Batwing, $1200 (I had to hide some rathole $$$$ so that I could get it). I got the version for a 57 with the deluxe heater with the off set right pot. I needed the off set pot to clear the air cond plumbing on the 51 and had to install it backward.
In my book, a Batwing is about as ugly an air cleaner that was ever made. But today, it's cool ---------------- I HAD TO HAVE ONE!!!!!!!!!

OK, now with all that said, what's the status with the 59-60 hybrid???????



 
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04-08-21 03:40 PM - Post#2817722    
    In response to DZAUTO

Great story as usual Tom. Always liked those old dual quad batwing air cleaners. I heard they used to repro those in fiberglass. Wonder how well they stood up to underhood temps.
Still plugging away on the prototype. I just finished rebuilding the tranny for it with new bushings, seals and friction modules and found the ‘63 327 block was never drilled for the offset starter bolts. Once that’s done it can be finished and painted and go back in the car.
Then the 60 front sheet metal can start going back on.






 
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04-08-21 03:45 PM - Post#2817723    
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DZAUTO 
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04-08-21 04:46 PM - Post#2817726    
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  • Jens Said:
------------------------- ------------------------- ------------------------- ------------------------- -- and found the ‘63 327 block was never drilled for the offset starter bolts. ------------------------- ------------------------- ------------------------- -------------



BUT, fortunately, it has the metal for a staggered bolt to be added. Some (as I'm sure you know) early blocks do not have that boss cast to allow a staggered bolt pattern to be drilled/tapped.

And that transmission looks like an automatic?!?!?!?!?!
If you will put it in -------------- I will donate a wide ratio Muncie.

By the way, did you see the videos of our first flight of the A26?




 
Jens 
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04-08-21 05:41 PM - Post#2817727    
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I KNEW that was coming.. yes it’s a TH350. Thanks for the offer but the auto column and brake pedal assy are already in and not sure I can get it off the line with a 4spd and 3.08s

And No.. I haven’t seen the maiden voyage of the WW2 warbird yet!

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DZAUTO 
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04-08-21 08:13 PM - Post#2817732    
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This is just before the first flight.
Me (flight engineer), pilot and co-pilot.


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DZAUTO 
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04-08-21 08:22 PM - Post#2817733    
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This is engine start up, taxi out to the runway and then we did a hi-speed taxi just to check things out to be assured the plane was ready to hunt for sky.
After the hi-speed taxi, we turned around at the other end of the runway and went full power for takeoff.
After the landing, and taxi back to the hanger, we did some tweaks to the left engine and flew a second time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24lJm55rAsE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EPazwWieq4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oazUKMmbi68

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT6fF3DbMfQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJYBOtp4Aw4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XFHGypcQBY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW_1EgAmRdU

This is the Chevelle parked at the plane while we were doing some tweaking on the left engine. And we are STILL chasing 2-3 gremlins before we can fly again!!!


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Jens 
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04-09-21 02:53 AM - Post#2817741    
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She flies again Tom! Look at the size of those props. Very cool.. glad you got to be part of it. You guys have some serious restoration time in her. Keep up the good work.
The Chevelle looks great too.



 
DZAUTO 
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04-09-21 06:17 AM - Post#2817746    
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Now that it's flyable, we have got to come up with $70-80,000 to get it painted like this.



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04-10-21 09:12 AM - Post#2817800    
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Good luck with the paint job Tom. Hope you guys get some cool nose art on it too.




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