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Username Post: 1952 Chevy Styleline Deluxe Restoration - Barn Find        (Topic#364210)
dachtera 
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02-02-21 05:52 PM - Post#2813504    

Hello all! New member and first time posting. I'm the happy owner of a '52 Deluxe. All original from what I have found. I picked the car up in 2013 from a friend who didn't have time to work on it, and it's been going thru a slow mechanical fix-up since then as it was stored a few hours away at the showgrounds for the annual steam festival I volunteer at. My understanding of this history is that it sat for over 30 years and prior to me owning was last licensed in 1982.

It's been home now for a few years and I've replaced the full fuel system, rebuilt the carb, new exhaust, brake lines, master cylinder, and various other bits and parts, including the front floor and toe pans.

My original intent was to leave the vehicle in its original working clothes, clean up the inside (as it's been terminally moused out from 30 years in a barn before I got it), and just get it mechanically sound for a 'Sunday Church Car'.

As you'll see in the videos (and maybe from the photo above) the rear doors had some pretty big dents that got the better of me, and I've started to pull them and figured I'll just get the exterior back to a good condition.

The engine runs well for its age, only about 68k on the odometer which still works. All of the wiring works, bulbs work, and short of replacing a few tubes in the AM radio, it came in good operating order once I worked the 30 years of gunk off the shift linkage. The longer-term goal is also to pull the driveline as everything there pees on my floor. I'd hope to keep the original engine unless upon a teardown it reveals some unexpected issues.

I'd prefer overall to keep the vehicle stock, short of trying to make some safety improvements where possible like disc brake conversion, seat belts in the back for our kids, etc.

So far, I haven't run into too many hurdles. This specific vehicle has the spotlight on the door, which still works, but the side view mirror has broken off. That is probably the largest hurdle I've encountered so far. If anyone has any clue on where I can find parts (I've scoured various places for a few years now, and coming up with nothing, aftermarket hot-rod type stuff)

Also, finding the correct paint has been troublesome. I have code 468 on the plate under the hood, but so far, the two attempts I've made to get that code (in the converted numbers to today anyways) has come back in an olive drab metallic and robins egg blue... So, I may end up doing a two-tone repaint with a white top and coordinate the interior to compliment the updated color scheme. a two-tone blue/white idea seems far more fun for a Sunday drive compared to the business blue as I call it, which is the current color.

Anyways, I'm going to be posting my updates on my YouTube channel (so I can keep stuff in one place across the various places I post) so feel free to check them out and subscribe to my channel! My goal is for new videos to come out weekly for the foreseeable future until I get the checkbook taken away!

This is my first restoration of sorts, so please feel free to chime in with any tips or feedback you may have on what I could do differently/better. I've been around cars for the majority of my life in some capacity, and have rebuilt a few from the salvage yard, done some basic engine work, and perform all of our routine maintenance here, so I'm no stranger to the mechanicals, but the finesse and experience in bodywork is my biggest knowledge gap right now. I don't have a shop full of tools or years of experience, but learn quickly! I thought this may be a good avenue to solicit feedback from a distance since that seems to be the current state we're all in.

Here's the link to my YouTube page! 52 Restoration Project on YouTube

(There's more stuff there too, mostly vehicle stuff, and our shop construction project from last year)

I'll see if I can find a good place to stuff all my past photos without having dozens of posts with 3 photos each too!

Thank you, and I look forward to learning something new!

- Tim


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dachtera 
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02-02-21 06:47 PM - Post#2813507    
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Trying to clean up the original paint..




 
dachtera 
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02-02-21 06:52 PM - Post#2813508    
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Cleaning up years of brake sludge


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Dents in the rear doors to be removed.


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The original inline 6 needing some TLC




 
RAM_51 
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02-02-21 11:20 PM - Post#2813519    
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Paint Code 468 is a two tone code. It is Dusk Gray Metallic [upper], Birch Gray [Lower] which leads me to believe that the car has been repainted to a complete Dusk Gray Metallic...unless the cowl tag actually says 467.

Below is a scan of both Dusk Gray Metallic and Birch Gray in their relative positions on the car. I'm not 100% sure what brand these paint chips are, but the Ditzler / PPG codes for either are 30941, and 30940 respectively. I've found that Ditzler / PPG codes are a little more friendly to use. You should be able to take those codes to a PPG Dealer and they should be able to help you. See the Ditzler scan at the bottom.

The right rear door will require the use of a port-a-power to repair and the crease / gouge in the left front fender will require the use of an oxy-acetylene torch as it will probably require some shrinking before all is said and done. Some shrinking may be required on the rear door as well. Torch and port-a-power technique will greatly reduce and in some cases completely eliminate as filler [lead or plastic] required.

Welcome to Chevytalk.

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1951 Fleetline Preservation
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
dachtera 
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02-03-21 04:51 AM - Post#2813525    
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Replacing the exhaust system back in January 2019


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New fuel system also went in back in January of 2019


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May as well rebuild the carb while we're at it.




 
dachtera 
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02-03-21 04:54 AM - Post#2813526    
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The front floor pans were pretty bad as well, so lets replace those as long as the carpet is gone.


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New pans in the front!




 
dachtera 
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02-03-21 05:04 AM - Post#2813527    
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  • RAM_51 Said:
Paint Code 468 is a two tone code. It is Dusk Gray Metallic [upper], Birch Gray [Lower] which leads me to believe that the car has been repainted to a complete Dusk Gray Metallic...unless the cowl tag actually says 467.

Below is a scan of both Dusk Gray Metallic and Birch Gray in their relative positions on the car. I'm not 100% sure what brand these paint chips are, but the Ditzler / PPG codes for either are 30941, and 30940 respectively. I've found that Ditzler / PPG codes are a little more friendly to use. You should be able to take those codes to a PPG Dealer and they should be able to help you. See the Ditzler scan at the bottom.

The right rear door will require the use of a port-a-power to repair and the crease / gouge in the left front fender will require the use of an oxy-acetylene torch as it will probably require some shrinking before all is said and done. Some shrinking may be required on the rear door as well.

Welcome to Chevytalk.



Thanks for the info and the welcome! I can't find any trace that the vehicle has been repainted to a solid color unless it was completely stripped to the bare metal when it was done. The dash matches the dusk gray, and behind the chrome trim etc, even sanding that all down for the dent repair I cannot find a trace of another color. Here's my plate under the hood with the paint code, and the 'dusk gray' and 'twilight blue' (467 and 477 codes) I got a sample of from the vendor I've gotten all my paint for on other projects (however much newer vehicles)

Thank you for the input! I've been able to clean up the door with a stud gun and puller, but I haven't gotten into the front fender too much yet beyond stripping the trim off. It's more or less a 'weekend project' when I can get to the garage for a few hours. Something something about young kids, a wife, and wanting to keep sleeping indoors...


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Code 468 - Dusk Gray Metallic... - not so much


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Code 477 - Twilight Blue - more like duck egg


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Badge under the hood.




Edited by dachtera on 02-03-21 09:16 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
tommy49 
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02-03-21 05:34 AM - Post#2813533    
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Good job on the floor pans.

Tommy

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02-03-21 08:08 AM - Post#2813539    
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Looks like paint code 467 to me. Dusk Gray.

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RAM_51 
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02-03-21 08:21 AM - Post#2813540    
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  • dachtera Said:
Thanks for the info and the welcome! I can't find any trace that the vehicle has been repainted to a solid color unless it was completely stripped to the bare metal when it was done. The dash matches the dusk gray, and behind the chrome trim etc, even sanding that all down for the dent repair I cannot find a trace of another color. Here's my plate under the hood with the paint code, and the 'dusk gray' and 'twilight blue' (468 and 477 codes).


I was confused as in your initial post, you said the paint code was 468 which would have meant that the body would have been the lighter Birch Gray. I saw no evidence of that especially when I watched your youtube video where you opened the hood. I can see now that the code from the data plate is actually 467 as I had previously mentioned. Mystery solved.


1951 Fleetline Preservation
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
dachtera 
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02-03-21 09:17 AM - Post#2813544    
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Yes, my mistake on the codes, I can't edit the caption in my photo attachment I guess.



 
Keith_Knox 
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02-03-21 04:55 PM - Post#2813563    
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You only have a fixed period of time to edit a post. I can edit posts as the moderator. Send me a Private Topic on what you want edited.

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dachtera 
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05-30-21 05:48 AM - Post#2820810    
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Hey all, it's been far too long since I've posted here.

I've been hard at work on the '52, or I was. The doors have been cleaned up and in primer. I have the hood and trunk in the process of being cleaned up, dents fixed and prepping those for primer as well.

I was distracted this spring with a '72 challenger my buddy dropped off for me to rebuild, so I've been working a ton on that too.

My question of the day is this - I'm looking at pulling the engine/trans this fall in hopes to rebuild them. Eckler's used to have a ton of parts, and a rebuild bundle when I looked a few years ago, but now they have far fewer parts (I can't even find my door gaskets any longer)

Does anyone know A) if there is truly still a rebuild bundle for the 216, or B) if there is another good source to get everything I need.

This being my first rebuild of an engine, I'd like to start with what I need, or at least have a good source to parts so I don't get it torn down and find out one or two $.25 parts are missing from the face of the earth.

Otherwise, maybe I'll dig into my old Triumph Spitfire which also needs a rebuild.

Here's a few photos in the meantime!

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Trunk cleaned up and prepped


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The worst of the dented doors all cleaned and prepped.


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All stacked up and ready for a long nap before a final sand & seal before I shoot color (found the match finally too)




 
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05-30-21 07:58 AM - Post#2820818    
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  • dachtera Said:
.

My question of the day is this - I'm looking at pulling the engine/trans this fall in hopes to rebuild them. Eckler's used to have a ton of parts, and a rebuild bundle when I looked a few years ago, but now they have far fewer parts (I can't even find my door gaskets any longer)

Does anyone know A) if there is truly still a rebuild bundle for the 216, or B) if there is another good source to get everything I need.

This being my first rebuild of an engine, I'd like to start with what I need, or at least have a good source to parts so I don't get it torn down and find out one or two $.25 parts are missing from the face of the earth.




I would ask these questions over in the main forum. Not much traffic in the build forum.


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05-30-21 02:17 PM - Post#2820843    
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Check out these vendors.
Chevs of the 40’s-- http://www.chevsofthe40s.com/
The Filling Station http://www.fillingstation.com/
Kanter http://www.kanter.com/
Landon’s Stovebolt http://www.stoveboltengineco.com/
http://www.steelerubber.com/
http://www.thehotrodcompany.com/
Jim Carter http://www.oldchevytrucks.com/
Your local Napa Store


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1965 Chevy II 2 door post 350 3 speed manual
2019 Ford Ranger Lariat Super Crewcab


 
dachtera 
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06-03-21 05:46 AM - Post#2821060    
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Thanks for the links sir! Very helpful!



 
dachtera 
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08-13-21 10:05 AM - Post#2825083    
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I've been slowly working over the summer so far, but with no AC or insulation in the shop, it's often 90+ and humid. No place for me to spend much time.. BUT, I've gotten the trunk and hood prepped, and the glass removed.

I've got some rust to repair, and a hole above the rear driver's wheel (but not in the right spot for a patch panel)

Hopeful to get the rest of the body stripped in the next few weeks and at least a base of primer on before the colder weather sets in.


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The hood is split, and short of one minor ding, it was in great shape overall




 
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08-15-21 05:13 PM - Post#2825239    
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The hood looks really good and solid! Very nice work getting it cleaned up. I know that's a bear of a job!

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dachtera 
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08-15-21 05:27 PM - Post#2825242    
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Thanks! Lots of work, and our shop is pretty warm this time of year. I'm also trying to juggle a '72 challenger rebuild as well, but nobody here wants to see that

Hoping I'll get a few months this fall (OK, Sept, Oct.) to get the body ready for at least a minimal layer of primer. I haven't decided if I want to pull the engine on this car, or my '75 spitfire for a rebuild.

Does anyone know if this is bearing or babbitt? Bearings of course are more simple, but I do have access to folks with babbitt experience from my involvement in restoring steam traction engines. (Google
"150hp Case" and you'll see another not-cheap hobby to be involved with.



 
dachtera 
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10-12-21 05:38 PM - Post#2829049    
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Moving ahead on the restoration (I've been sidetracked by family, hot weather and a '72 challenger project)

Upon removing the rocker chrome trim, I found about what I had expected with the rusty metal. Does anyone have a lead on where one might find these with less rust? I found a few places online, but the photos showed some pretty horrid metalwork (like they were beaten with the backside of an axe)

On the upside, I've started removing paint from the body itself, and I'm shooting to get a coat of DTM primer on so I've got the winter to get it into the heated garage on weekends. The shop is still needing work to be livable in the winter months..

Thanks!

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Rocker Rust




 
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10-13-21 08:20 AM - Post#2829080    
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Check out---trucks and cars.com
and chevy restoration world in Dayton

Thats- Rocker Panel Extension
Also look at floor braces

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dachtera 
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10-13-21 09:17 AM - Post#2829082    
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Thanks! I"ll take a look.



 
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10-18-21 11:51 PM - Post#2829458    
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  • dachtera Said:
Does anyone have a lead on where one might find these with less rust?



EMS Automotive (either direct of through a secondary supplier for a possible better price) or NOS are your best options:

LINK:
http://emsautomotive.com/index.php?route=product/p...

1951 Fleetline Preservation
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
dachtera 
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10-19-21 03:51 AM - Post#2829461    
    In response to RAM_51

Thanks! I did locate EMS last week..

I did end up finding they had all the parts I needed, so I'm waiting on those to arrive and I can get crackin.

Still debating to pull the engine or not for a winter project...



 




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