pauldian
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12-31-20 02:08 PM - Post#2811076
:mad : Went out this morning temperature at 26% maybe 35% inside the garage
and after starting car and shifting into reverse there was a whining noise
from the 2004r that lasted about 5 seconds , reverse to drive the same thing
and after car warmed up noise went away.
Checked trans fluid latter in the day when the transmission was hot and the
level was at full. any thoughts on this will be greatly appreciated. Paul
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wagonman100
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12-31-20 02:22 PM - Post#2811077
In response to pauldian
Has it been a while since you started it? The fluid can drain out of the valve body and even gravitate out of the pump. I’m no expert, but it could have been the pump refilling all of the areas that the fluid ran out of. I am certainly no expert on transmissions, so this is just my thought on the problem. When you start your car up after it’s been sitting for a while you should start it in neutral since the pressure is lower in neutral than it is in park. I also usually disconnect the coil and crank the engine to distribute the oil before firing it and having it run with only a little oil present with a load on the motor.
Jay
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55MAS
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12-31-20 03:06 PM - Post#2811085
In response to pauldian
:mad : Went out this morning temperature at 26% maybe 35% inside the garage
and after starting car and shifting into reverse there was a whining noise
from the 2004r that lasted about 5 seconds , reverse to drive the same thing
and after car warmed up noise went away.
Checked trans fluid latter in the day when the transmission was hot and the
level was at full. any thoughts on this will be greatly appreciated. Paul
How old is the filter?
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pauldian
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12-31-20 07:45 PM - Post#2811095
In response to wagonman100
Has it been a while since you started it? The fluid can drain out of the valve body and even gravitate out of the pump. I’m no expert, but it could have been the pump refilling all of the areas that the fluid ran out of. I am certainly no expert on transmissions, so this is just my thought on the problem. When you start your car up after it’s been sitting for a while you should start it in neutral since the pressure is lower in neutral than it is in park. I also usually disconnect the coil and crank the engine to distribute the oil before firing it and having it run with only a little oil present with a load on the motor.
Yep ! that is what I was thinking, with this winter weather and not starting the the car for weeks at a time I'm sure it drains some.
Filter & fluid are about a year old, always start the car in neutral. Thanks Again Paul.
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Rick_L
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01-01-21 06:20 PM - Post#2811146
In response to wagonman100
When you start your car up after it’s been sitting for a while you should start it in neutral since the pressure is lower in neutral than it is in park.
What makes you think that? Hydraulically, inside the valve body, oil is directed exactly the same way in neutral and park.
Back to the original question, is this a new thing or has it always done this?
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wagonman100
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01-01-21 07:35 PM - Post#2811150
In response to Rick_L
It was advice given in an article a long time ago about getting your car back up and running after winter storage. If I’m not mistaken it was in Super Chevy. Again, I am not a trans expert.
Jay
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1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
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pauldian
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01-02-21 06:15 AM - Post#2811169
In response to Rick_L
When you start your car up after it’s been sitting for a while you should start it in neutral since the pressure is lower in neutral than it is in park.
What makes you think that? Hydraulically, inside the valve body, oil is directed exactly the same way in neutral and park.
Back to the original question, is this a new thing or has it always done this?
This is a new thing. Starts up great then I let it idle for 3 minutes then put in reverse or drive and it will whine for about 5 seconds. after I Drive it for awhile it's normal. Sounds to me like the pump is pressurizing a dry system. I am not a mechanic. Just my guess. Paul
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5Larry7
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01-02-21 07:38 AM - Post#2811176
In response to pauldian
FWI it has been my experience that when the fluid runs into the pan the car won't move until the oil gets pumped to the rest of the transmission, particularly the torque converter.
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