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Username Post: poor mans power steering        (Topic#363628)
4dr 57 
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Loc: Texas Hill Country
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12-13-20 05:18 PM - Post#2809918    


AKA the Idler bearing kit.
I took mine off today as the car has been sitting for a few years and during some other front end work noticed some of the suspension joints were woefully lacking grease, probably for thousands of miles as it was fun driving for a change instead of debugging. Any way, off came the PMPS only to discover all the rubber seals had been chewed up or were becoming disintegrated by the grease probably. Can I replace the rubber seals with some other material that resists the grease but remains pliable enough to retain the "seal"?

Danchuck has the whole kit and caboodle for about 150 but they aren't greaseable. Has anyone put these on their car. Did it last?

I've also heard about idler arms with a greaseable plastic insert. Is that a 50"s item?

Stan



I'd rather be thorough than vague


 


YOUNG57 
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Loc: Tennessee
Reg: 12-06-10
12-14-20 08:23 AM - Post#2809953    
    In response to 4dr 57

I installed a ball bearing type idler arms some twenty years ago, probably from Danchuk.

It didn’t have grease fittings so I drilled, tapped and installed two zerks, one between each set of bearings. So far, the “rubber” seals are intact and the idler arm works smoothly.

Thinking back, I’m not sure if my kit included the arms with bearings or just the bearings to be installed on my arms. But I did install zerks.



Edited by YOUNG57 on 12-14-20 08:33 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Bad56Sedan 
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Bad56Sedan
Loc: Pasadena, Texas
Reg: 04-29-04
12-15-20 06:35 PM - Post#2810093    
    In response to 4dr 57

Looking at the PMPS bearing kit on the Danchuk site,
It appears to be rubber washers.
$100 just to get those washers would not be good,
Surely that store that sells wood or that auto parts store down the street would have something like what you need.
I went out in "the shop" to see if I had the same issue,
Mine look ok, I'm surprised, thanks for the heads up.


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55MAS 
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Loc: North Coast, USA
Reg: 12-19-01
12-16-20 07:10 AM - Post#2810117    
    In response to 4dr 57

  • 4dr 57 Said:

AKA the Idler bearing kit.
I took mine off today as the car has been sitting for a few years and during some other front end work noticed some of the suspension joints were woefully lacking grease, probably for thousands of miles as it was fun driving for a change instead of debugging. Any way, off came the PMPS only to discover all the rubber seals had been chewed up or were becoming disintegrated by the grease probably. Can I replace the rubber seals with some other material that resists the grease but remains pliable enough to retain the "seal"?

Danchuck has the whole kit and caboodle for about 150 but they aren't greaseable. Has anyone put these on their car. Did it last?

I've also heard about idler arms with a greaseable plastic insert. Is that a 50"s item?

Stan



You might consider 0-rings, either round or square cross section depending on which would fit best. Try local, an then try this:

https://www.mcmaster.com/o-rings

McMaster-Carr will have all sizes and materials to choose from in regards to compatibility, hardness, etc. Excellent easy to use site for an unbelievable host of products. Just enter your need in the search window.




 
4dr 57 
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Loc: Texas Hill Country
Reg: 11-10-04
12-18-20 07:16 AM - Post#2810273    
    In response to 55MAS

Thanks Guys

I discovered my original "Kit" was missing 3 of the cup retainers! No wonder the grease leaked.

I bought Danchucks bearing kit (waiting for delivery) for 140, they said its USA made.
The complete arm assembly + the bearing kit from them is 150 - they said it's sourced offshore.

Bad, how many miles on you bearing kit? I noticed a new cotter pin, have you recently had it off? Are they sealed bearing?






 
carolinakid 
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Loc: Erwin NC
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12-19-20 08:38 AM - Post#2810343    
    In response to 4dr 57

I Installed one on my 56. I like it and think its a big improvement.



 
Bad56Sedan 
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Bad56Sedan
Loc: Pasadena, Texas
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12-20-20 07:17 AM - Post#2810403    
    In response to 4dr 57

Not real sure how many miles, looks like I installed it back in 2005.
I changed oil pump last year and disassembled the idler arm bearing to pull the steering linkage down to remove the pan.
this car might see 150 miles per year, but now that the speedometer is working I will see.
The bearings are open ball bearings retained in a cage type assembly.
I was disappointed with the PMPS bearing and finally added PS, now this car is like a "go cart", and really is one finger steering.


VC56S 2 door Sedan, 40 Years

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Edited by Bad56Sedan on 12-20-20 07:47 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 


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