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Username Post: lower steering column bearing        (Topic#363379)
995jim 
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995jim
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11-22-20 12:26 PM - Post#2808341    

Hi, Im rebuilding my 65 impala steering column with console shift. The problem is that the lower bearing is trashed and the parts columns I have are column shift so it doesnt look like a easy swap of parts based on the lower section of the column housing. Has anyone found a source for that bearing? The bearing appears a little different than the column shift type also.
thanks jim

Jim

65' Impala SS, 65' Belair, 89' Silverado Z71, 95' Silverado Z71, 12' Silverado, 15' Silverado LTZ, 16' Tahoe LTZ


Edited by 995jim on 11-22-20 12:27 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 


mjc1 
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Loc: Burlington Ontario Canada
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11-22-20 12:54 PM - Post#2808343    
    In response to 995jim

I rebuilt my 65 floor shift Column, and used a bearing from Classic Industries
Worked out fine. They are widely available. Packed it with some synthetic grease before installing it.

Image of the column first broken down. Nothing left of the lower bearing!






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995jim 
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995jim
Loc: Ohio
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11-22-20 01:00 PM - Post#2808344    
    In response to mjc1

thanks, I see it in the catalog but was worried it wouldnt work because of the different appearance.
thats a relief thanks again, jim

Jim

65' Impala SS, 65' Belair, 89' Silverado Z71, 95' Silverado Z71, 12' Silverado, 15' Silverado LTZ, 16' Tahoe LTZ


 
65acadian 
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Loc: Manitoba, Canada
Reg: 08-15-04
11-22-20 09:42 PM - Post#2808375    
    In response to 995jim

I've had the repro as well as an NOS bearing and they look very very similar. Fun job actually, it looks intimidating but once you start on it, it's not a bad job at all. One of those jobs that's very rewarding when completed!



 
bigbowtielover 
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Loc: Surrey British Columbia
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11-22-20 10:53 PM - Post#2808378    
    In response to 995jim

The lower bearing from a column shift will work in a floorshift column. Just the bearing itself. You have to press the metal part of the bearing out of the plastic piece that fits in the tube. Also press the same part out of the metal part from the floorshift tube and then swap the bearing in from the column shift one. I have done this a few times. I was rebuilding a floorshift column and needed a lower bearing. I also needed the steering shaft too due to misalignment and destroyed bearing causing the bearing race to carve a notch in shaft. I had a really nice column shift column from a low mileage 4 door parts car(50k miles on it but was very rusty) that was like new. I used the shaft and lower bearing after taking them apart and comparing them ,I found that the bearing would fit and the shaft was also the same but like new with no damage or signs of any wear even the felt washer was in good shape. It worked out perfectly and I did the same to a few more using the column shift ones for parts.some of them needed new felt washers but those were easy for me to make. There is a bronze bearing kit available but I haven't tried one yet.



 
mjc1 
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Loc: Burlington Ontario Canada
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11-23-20 08:22 AM - Post#2808401    
    In response to bigbowtielover

There is a person on line that actually fits a proper roller bearing in Delrin. To me this would be the best fix, but it's pricey. The Delrin takes the place of the existing metal shell.


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995jim 
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Loc: Ohio
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11-24-20 04:23 PM - Post#2808542    
    In response to bigbowtielover

well, as i pressed the bearing out of the housing that bolts to the steering tube the end slit out on me. Just my luck...... I bought the new bearing for this housing so Im not sure if that part is available or if I have to go to (if i understand) the bearing that is used on a column shift. Is that what my best option is? I didnt want to buy a whole steering column for that bearing holder.

thanks jim

Jim

65' Impala SS, 65' Belair, 89' Silverado Z71, 95' Silverado Z71, 12' Silverado, 15' Silverado LTZ, 16' Tahoe LTZ


Edited by 995jim on 11-24-20 04:24 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
mjc1 
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11-24-20 06:19 PM - Post#2808549    
    In response to 995jim

If I'm understanding you right Jim, you're saying the bearing retainer or adapter split?

Mine got pretty ugly as well (as you can see) when I fought it out of the mast jacket, and then drove the outer race out of it. But I was able to tap it back into a reasonable shape, good enough to allow the new bearing to be gently eased into it. The bearing does not have to be fitted too tightly into that retainer. The spring and clamp on the shaft end will apply pressure and keep everything in place.

If you have lost the battle with your original retainer, then perhaps you could go with one of those Delrin incased roller bearings? I believe they eliminate the need for a retainer.

Sealed roller with Delrin retainer

That or ask if anyone has a spare floor shift column retainer. If I had one, it'd be on it's way to you.





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995jim 
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Loc: Ohio
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11-25-20 09:11 AM - Post#2808589    
    In response to mjc1

Ya, the retainer is damaged however i will give it a last chance repair before i go to plan b.
Thanks jim

Jim

65' Impala SS, 65' Belair, 89' Silverado Z71, 95' Silverado Z71, 12' Silverado, 15' Silverado LTZ, 16' Tahoe LTZ


 
995jim 
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11-26-20 04:50 PM - Post#2808678    
    In response to mjc1

Just to update, I reformed the retainer and brazed the hairline split, then removed any excess and it all worked out.
thanks for your input,
jim

Jim

65' Impala SS, 65' Belair, 89' Silverado Z71, 95' Silverado Z71, 12' Silverado, 15' Silverado LTZ, 16' Tahoe LTZ


 
mjc1 
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11-26-20 04:52 PM - Post#2808679    
    In response to 995jim

Good to hear!

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