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Username Post: 3 Brake Questions        (Topic#363188)
The Senator 
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11-06-20 05:04 PM - Post#2807139    

1960 Belair 2 Door - Rear Drum Brakes

1.) Purchased a brake spring kit from O’Reillys, must be generic as all of the springs are the same color. It states in the service manual that the springs have unequal tensions with the black having a greater tension than the grey. Concerned that the O’Reilly kit does not include the higher tension black spring (as all of the springs in the kit are grey). Should I toss this kit and purchase one specific to the vehicle with the correct colored springs?

1. b.) the black primary spring goes on the front shoe - correct?

2.) parking brake lever - the end with the spring goes on the front shoe - right?

I took these apart awhile back, got interrupted and just want to make sure it’s going back together correctly.

My Best To All




Edited by The Senator on 11-06-20 05:04 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 


beagrizzly 
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beagrizzly
Age: 70
Loc: south texas
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11-07-20 06:24 AM - Post#2807168    
    In response to The Senator

Maybe this will help.
This is the right, or passenger side. Note the long shoe is in the back. This is for the parking brake application.

Griff

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if you're gonna be a bear..................

1960 Biscayne (the 6T)
2005 Yukon XL
2007 GMC Sierra Classic 8.1
2009 Silverado
2011 Escalade ESV


 
PLS 
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PLS
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11-07-20 11:19 AM - Post#2807195    
    In response to The Senator

I bought my brake kit from O’Reilly as well and both springs are gray. When I installed automatic brake adjusters it came with a black and gray spring and the black spring can only be installed in one place as shown in the pictures. As you can see Griff and my setup is the same with the adjusters installed. Long story short I removed the adjusters and went back to the gray springs and I can’t tell any different. I have good brakes with these springs. Lamar

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Right and left rear with brake adjusters installed.


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Removed brake adjusters and used the gray springs.




 
radioheaterwsw tires 
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11-07-20 12:29 PM - Post#2807202    
    In response to PLS

I believe that 57 was the first year they used return springs with unequal value. It was to ensure that the primary shoes released first thus releasing the secondary actuating force. The primary springs were rated at 50 lbs and the secondary at 40 lbs. I believe all the replacement kits available today have the springs with equal value. I'm using the current available ones on my 57 and all seems to be working just fine.
Awhile back, I came across a NOS kit from the old days that had the correct springs. If I ever replace my front brakes, I'll probably go ahead and use these, just because.



 
The Senator 
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11-08-20 06:24 PM - Post#2807301    
    In response to The Senator

Thanks for the responses and posting the images, good stuff that is very helpful and very much appreciated.

My Best To All!



Edited by The Senator on 11-08-20 06:25 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
beagrizzly 
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11-12-20 07:59 AM - Post#2807581    
    In response to The Senator

I got mine as a kit from CarQuest.
Apparently they still have listings for them. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I think GM used the same springs from 57 all the way to the 70s. The auto adjuster kit even had the bar.

Griff

if you're gonna be a bear..................

1960 Biscayne (the 6T)
2005 Yukon XL
2007 GMC Sierra Classic 8.1
2009 Silverado
2011 Escalade ESV


 
Jens 
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11-14-20 12:11 PM - Post#2807699    
    In response to beagrizzly

I expect most of the kits sold are a generic version now. I just re-did the rear end on the project I’m working on and the spring kit came marked front and rear.



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beagrizzly 
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11-16-20 01:24 PM - Post#2807881    
    In response to Jens

Hey, Jens. I have been wondering if you were still around. Haven't heard much from you lately.
I'm still lurking, not doing much on the +6T, but it is always in the back of my mind. So much seems to get in the way!!

Griff

if you're gonna be a bear..................

1960 Biscayne (the 6T)
2005 Yukon XL
2007 GMC Sierra Classic 8.1
2009 Silverado
2011 Escalade ESV


 
Techhead 
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11-17-20 10:34 AM - Post#2807944    
    In response to Jens

My kit came from CARS INC and has the coloured springs.



It now sits in a box of parts that will never get used as I have gone with disks all around.

I'll be Frank, this hobby isn't getting any easier.
58 Delray in disaray


 
Jens 
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11-18-20 01:07 PM - Post#2808024    
    In response to beagrizzly

Hi Griff, yes still here plugging away.. just all takes time. Good luck with your project.




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beagrizzly 
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11-19-20 09:06 AM - Post#2808083    
    In response to Jens

You're like a one-man assembly line!!
Oh, yeah. I forgot the Swiffer girls.

Griff
p.s. I have another small project that I am working on. Doesn't matter what I do when I upload it. It is rotated 90deg.

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if you're gonna be a bear..................

1960 Biscayne (the 6T)
2005 Yukon XL
2007 GMC Sierra Classic 8.1
2009 Silverado
2011 Escalade ESV


 
PLS 
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11-19-20 02:11 PM - Post#2808102    
    In response to beagrizzly

  • The Senator Said:
Thanks for the responses and posting the images, good stuff that is very helpful and very much appreciated.

My Best To All!

How about posting some pictures of the '60, we love pictures, Lamar


Looks like a wonderful addition to the family. Hopefully you can get the 6t done by the time he/she gets their license. Lamar


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How about this.




 


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