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Username Post: found an almost time capsule 57 Bel Air Coupe        (Topic#362897)
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Reg: 10-13-20
10-13-20 06:28 AM - Post#2805367    

Hi All, new to the forum.

I am looking at a 50000 miles preserved car, has no rust that can be seen since it is heavily oil undercoated. Was this the way back in the 50's to preserve them, or should I be concerned that this is a way to conceal rust?

Also, the owner (Original purchaser from Oct 56) changed out the single 4 barrel carter to a dual set up with the GM intake, and has the batwing air cleaner, is this an issue?

He also changed the steering wheel to a 59 model wheel.

And did a 3 speed floor shifter, and cut the tunnel.

Currently asking concours money $50000, but Hagerty see's it differently that a #2 car is more likely in the 30's. Question is, with these mods, is it still a #2 Car, and I only say this because "HIS" Appraiser put it in #2 condition, and 95% original. Thanks!


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10-13-20 07:25 PM - Post#2805409    
    In response to xltpilot

Welcome to CT. It depends on who you talk to. Purists will say he devalued the car. Hot Rodgers will say he improved it. The intake and carbs. and the steering wheel can be easily changed back if desired (though I personally like those changes). The shifter moved to the floor makes for easier driving and is okay as long as it wasn’t a hanky job. That bat wing air cleaner is worth some bucks. The oil undercoating is not typical, but not unheard of. Just inspect things carefully for corrosion.

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10-14-20 07:13 AM - Post#2805432    
    In response to wagonman100

Considering the change to floor shifter being a major change because of the floor modification, I'd say it's not nearly a #2 car, or a $50k car. The intake isn't a big deal as it's easily returned to original if a concours car is what you want. Same for the steering wheel, as it's easily reversible. But the shifter change is huge, and really hurts a concours judging.
I'd say he took a $50k car and made it a $30k-$35k car.
The undercoating is an issue if it's not original. I'd have it closely examined if you are serious. But not sure I'd ever get serious at the asking price.

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Edited by 1971BB427 on 10-14-20 07:14 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

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Reg: 01-21-19
04-15-21 01:36 PM - Post#2818097    
    In response to 1971BB427

The undercoating was never original.

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04-30-21 02:08 PM - Post#2819054    
    In response to nstlga

  • nstlga Said:
It could be applied by the dealer at time of new car delivery. Very common in those days in many areas of the country. My father always had it done to his new cars. I had it done to a '77 Chevy van when I bought it new. I think the point being made here is if the undercoat on this car dates back to when it was new vs. being added recently to conceal damage are 2 very different things.

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