 WagonCrazy
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10-05-20 04:56 AM - Post#2804856
OK..so i realize it's all of like 3 of us debating on this forum, but...
yesterdays Talledega TV coverage was all good until NBC chose NOT to cover the last 2 laps and move on to another scheduled show.
Granted, the race was a crash fest, that had many delays right up until the end, but that just sucks to be involved for hours...only to have the ending not covered.
Rant over.
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Rick_L
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10-05-20 08:31 AM - Post#2804866
In response to WagonCrazy
Football is more important. And apparently the evening network news.
The end of the race WAS on NBCSN.
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10-05-20 04:08 PM - Post#2804903
In response to Rick_L
Its just the way they slide the coverage around. When you set the DVR, it doesnt know to chase it down on another channel. So by the time I went to watch it, the race was long over by the time I got to the end where they cut it off.
I ended up picking up my iPhone and asking Siri "who won todays Nascar Race at Talledega?"
She answered Denny Hamlin.
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Rick_L
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10-05-20 05:12 PM - Post#2804910
In response to WagonCrazy
Would your DVR have recorded it if they hadn't switched channels? I think they were already a half hour over the scheduled time when they did switch.
ESPN used to do this to NHRA regularly, except that they would go to a pre-recorded program, which to me was inexcusable. At least Fox and FS1 have allowed the NHRA races to have continued coverage this year, in fact several times.
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10-05-20 05:51 PM - Post#2804915
In response to Rick_L
they move it due to other time slot commitments and understandable for the price of "air time".
Maybe if NASCAR went back to letting them race instead of changing the rules every week they'd get it over within the allotted time and have more exciting racing without 2 hrs of boredom before a 15 lap wreckfest!
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10-05-20 06:28 PM - Post#2804919
In response to docjns1
I was listening on Sirius radio in my truck so heard the end. Had it DVRed to watch the last 50 laps when I got home, but found out it didn't get recorded. Listened to Sirius radio this morning the Nascar channel. Lots of opinions on the result.
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10-06-20 03:15 AM - Post#2804935
In response to Keith_Knox
All tv stations have allotted time slots for programming. NBC did nothing different than other stations. I realize not everyone can get the upper channels like NBCSN so the switch over doesn't work for them. My dvr doesn't follow a program to another channel, also bad, but I don't normally record races anymore anyway. Nascar tries to get the whole race in under green which I applaud. That race did run real long.
So do networks do the same with others sports events that run long or get off to a late start due to a rain delay, etc?
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Rick_L
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10-06-20 01:01 PM - Post#2804972
In response to Boog
So do networks do the same with others sports events that run long or get off to a late start due to a rain delay, etc?
Yes they do. There's a pecking order to it. Some programs are lower on the pecking order, will get bumped by those higher. A prerecorded show following the one being shown lowers the probability a bunch. Live football would always bump a "lesser" sport, etc. The example of Fox letting NHRA stay on to completion that I gave was bumping prerecorded shows.
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10-07-20 04:55 AM - Post#2805035
In response to Rick_L
I'm one of the ones that quit commenting, lol, but I will say this. NBC did their fans wrong and everyone is talking about it, Nascar did their fans wrong (debatable) by letting Hamlin win and sending the 21 way back to 21st, and everyone is talking about it.
Anyone see a pattern here?
By the way, I am boycotting Nascar itself and will not support it in any way, shape or form. I won't even click on any of their sites anymore.
But, I still like racing, still like the tracks and still like most of the drivers.
Awkward position, ain't it.
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10-09-20 09:32 AM - Post#2805157
In response to 62BillT
I fixed my NASCAR coverage...I quit watching.Too many rules,too political,just sucks all the way around.
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10-10-20 03:21 AM - Post#2805191
In response to Andy J
I fixed my NASCAR coverage...I quit watching.Too many rules,too political,just sucks all the way around.
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11-27-20 05:29 PM - Post#2808788
In response to rcr3
Maaaaaaaaaany years NBC switched from a football game to a made for TV movie and you would have thought the world stopped spinning. Heidi or something like that I believe was the name of the movie.  .
I am sure some of you remember this and have better facts if I don't remember correctly. 
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12-30-20 09:07 AM - Post#2811009
In response to 57tim
I'm about to dump Directv in favor of 100% streaming from the internet. So make it simple for me to find you Nascar...
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Rick_L
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12-30-20 12:28 PM - Post#2811018
In response to WagonCrazy
You keep telling Nascar to do something. Fact is they did many years ago - they sold the broadcast rights to Fox and NBC. So you need to appeal to Fox and NBC for coverage that suits you as well as the streaming.
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01-04-21 07:22 AM - Post#2811317
In response to Rick_L
Yup. I keep telling Nascar to do something, and they keep listening.... (ya, right?)
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01-04-21 02:06 PM - Post#2811354
In response to WagonCrazy
Again, they have no control over your request until the next TV contract comes up. Thing is, when that happens, they'll have little leverage on this issue in a declining market - their priority has to be to maximize their income from TV because it's far and away their biggest income source. So they'll say "yes sir, Mr. tv executive" to most anything the tv executive does.
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01-04-21 09:30 PM - Post#2811381
In response to Rick_L
You guys need to try www.iRacing.com
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01-05-21 05:47 PM - Post#2811443
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Just start supporting other stuff like some of the stuff Lucas Oil is involved with. Try the Stadium Super Trucks. The worst part about them is that the races are too short. There is lots of fun to watch racing that beats NASCAR these days. There is good stuff that is more grass roots too.
NASCAR has simply lost touch with the fans they had and are unsuccessfully chasing new fans because they have no clue what new or old fans want.
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01-05-21 08:46 PM - Post#2811452
In response to 65_Impala
NASCAR has simply lost touch with the fans they had and are unsuccessfully chasing new fans because they have no clue what new or old fans want.
Well stated.
I've also been enjoying Lucas Oil racing and have some high hopes for SRX.
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01-06-21 10:04 AM - Post#2811504
In response to 62BillT
SRX is off to an amazing start, good mix of drivers and a great pick for the tracks. I am looking forward to those races. I like the all short track picks. Tony knows that short tracks builds excitement and is racing that relates to fans and their own local tracks, something else NASCAR has forgotten about.
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01-24-21 07:45 PM - Post#2812853
In response to 65_Impala
I too turned off Nascar when it got all political last year. The only race we've gone to in some time was the trucks at Eldora. Be interesting to see what Tony has to offer with the new series.
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01-24-21 08:18 PM - Post#2812861
In response to Bill K.b
New twist. Now NBCSN, which has most of NBC's contractual Nascar coverage, is going out of business at the end of the year. Coverage will now be on USA channel, and the races will now get bumped for 10 year old reruns of "Law and Order" and "NCIS". They still have a contract through 2024.
Some side affects have already been evident, like no weekday Nascar news program, letting some of the on air people go, etc.
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01-29-21 11:45 AM - Post#2813201
In response to Rick_L
I agree, nascar has become a laughing stock, political endeavors seem more important! So I only watch like 5 races, Daytona 500, Firecracker 400, 2 Talledega races, and Brickyard 400. The rest can kiss my butt!
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02-10-21 08:03 PM - Post#2814071
In response to busterrm
I'm about to dump Directv in favor of 100% streaming from the internet. So make it simple for me to find you Nascar...
So now it's February and I've dumped Directv in favor of 100% internet based streaming.
Sat down to watch the Duels last night on FS1 and was promptly booted since I no longer had a Directv account (revenue sharing going on there).
So now I need to subscribe to one of these apps that carry Fox and it's affiliates.
Anyone know the best one to go with? I'm leaning towards YouTubeTV because I think they have the most channels that I watch (which is few).
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02-11-21 06:06 AM - Post#2814093
In response to WagonCrazy
Actually the Duels happen tonight. 
I agree about the tv providers. It's absurd that we must pay for way too many channels in some package in order to get the few channels we really watch. I currently have AT&T Uverse for phone, tv and internet. Strong signal with rare interruptions in service but not cheap. Our local cable is a joke. Dish plans go off every time a rain cloud goes over, especially important in stormy weather. The services could be much more reasonably priced if they would drop some of the channel excess. Nobody needs many of those channels offered. The day may come when we can subscribe only to the channels we really want at reduced rates.
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02-13-21 05:46 PM - Post#2814230
In response to Boog
I signed up for youtubetv. $65 per month, no contracts. Up to 5 OTHER family members can access it themselves too. And unlimited "cloud based DVR" storage. So I have set all the shows and the 3 Nascar series to watch to auto record.
Then when I come inside in the evening from a perfectly productive Sunday being outside, I can zip thru commercials watching Nascar racing (like I used to do for $120/month on Directv).
For $65 bucks a month.
Now if I could ditch AT&T high speed internet for $70/month in favor of Elon Musk's sattelite based Broadband system (if the price is cheaper and works better).
Sometimes weather would affect Directv signals, so I'm assuming it will affect ElonMuskSattelite too.
Tons of other channels on youtubetv too. But for sure Fox Sports, FS1, FS2, MSNBC, NBC Sports, etc.
I'm rambling here.
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02-13-21 06:40 PM - Post#2814231
In response to WagonCrazy
FS1 stuck with Nascar on Thursday night when the 2nd race of the duel qualifiers ran way late because of a 2 hour rain delay. Did youtube?
I'll have to check what channels youtube includes for $65. Is that price before or after taxes? Good savings if it's after taxes, not so much if before taxes - depending on the rest of the channels in the package. Is your AT&T internet cable or DSL?
I think an Elon Musk satellite internet package might not be so good. I'd be really wary.
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02-17-21 06:26 AM - Post#2814443
In response to Rick_L
FS1 stuck with Nascar on Thursday night when the 2nd race of the duel qualifiers ran way late because of a 2 hour rain delay. Did youtube?
Yes. FS1 stuck with it all the way thru. So I was able to watch it via YouTubeTV. (the FS1 channel)
I'll have to check what channels youtube includes for $65. Is that price before or after taxes? Good savings if it's after taxes, not so much if before taxes - depending on the rest of the channels in the package.
It's $64.99 per month, billed automatically to your credit card. No contracts. Allows up to 6 people to use it, with 3 of them simultaneously. Works on all your devices (TV, ipad, phone, etc). (think sharing with your family) for that $65/mo.
Also includes UNLIMITED DVR (via everything recording to the cloud..so no equipment needed), stored for 9 months. So I've set many series to automatically record. I've pulled several up and watched them, and was able to fast forward thru all the commercials. This was my strategy with DirecTV (short of some kind of technology not-yet-invented to just eliminate the commercials altogether).
Is your AT&T internet cable or DSL?
It's broadband via a cable. I think the speed is 200 megabits per second. It's fast enough to stream all this video without any lag time. The limitation is my (now old) flatscreens without the 4K resolution.
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Edited by WagonCrazy on 02-17-21 06:30 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Mel Foye
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02-18-21 09:28 PM - Post#2814588
In response to WagonCrazy
Wagoncrazy I am going a little to the side. On a number of threads over recent years I see-- going political-- as a reason for people watching less. Can someone give some examples of that? Thanks.
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WagonCrazy
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02-25-21 07:04 AM - Post#2815058
In response to Mel Foye
Mel, not sure exactly what you are asking here. Restate your qeustion and I'll try to give you a specific answer. Thanks
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