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Username Post: High pressure oil gauge for '50 car instrument cluster?        (Topic#361558)
mahlmann 
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06-29-20 09:36 AM - Post#2797442    

Can anyone recommend a higher pressure oil gauge to replace the one in my stock '50 Styleline Deluxe instrument cluster? The hot rodded 261 I'm swapping in has a high pressure oil pump. I'm pretty sure someone(s) have done this swap before and I would like to pick their brains!



Mike Ahlmann
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chevcpe 
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06-29-20 04:09 PM - Post#2797477    
    In response to mahlmann

Hi Mike,
I

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BAJohnny 
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06-29-20 08:09 PM - Post#2797493    
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What kind of fuel injection are you using?

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rrausch 
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06-29-20 09:24 PM - Post#2797499    
    In response to BAJohnny

I'm betting Williamson gauges, in Chester, Arkansas has dealt with this problem before.

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eplantage 
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06-30-20 05:03 AM - Post#2797506    
    In response to mahlmann

Weren't there 60psi oil pressure gauges used in vehicles equipped with powerglide transmissions? Not sure what year that was started.

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40grit 
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06-30-20 05:32 AM - Post#2797507    
    In response to eplantage

  • eplantage Said:
Weren't there 60psi oil pressure gauges used in vehicles equipped with powerglide transmissions? Not sure what year that was started.



The '53 Power Glide cars were the first to get 60 lb gauges. They were equipped with the new full oil pressure 235s.

John

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Edited by 40grit on 06-30-20 05:34 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
RAM_51 
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06-30-20 07:49 AM - Post#2797522    
    In response to mahlmann

I'm not sure how similar the a 49-50 30 lb. gauge workings are to a 53 PowerGlide and up 60 lb. gauge...so that one could possibly attach the 49-50 face to the 53 and up 60 lb. gauge. I do know that the 49-50 and 47-53 truck look exactly the same aside from the face. I will say this...the rivet spacing that holds the face of a '49 - '50 face is EXACTLY the same [1-1/8"] as a 47-53 truck 30 lb. The 60 lb. truck gauges are configured the same as the 30 lbs. truck gauges. The truck presents a problem however, in that it is basically an inverted gauge. I do not have a 60 lb. '53 PowerGlide or newer gauge to compare....those gauges are however in the same orientation. Again, unfortunately, not a definative answer, but to me, it seems very doable as long as the inner workings are similar [which they probably are, just calibrated differently] and the rivet spacing is the same [1-1/8" is the magic number].

If it were me and I wanted an original look, that is how I would attack it. I would procure a 1953 PowerGlide or 54 oil pressure gauge and then compare. If the spacing is correct, I would remove the black face and re-attach the silver '49-'50 face using small brass hobby screws ans nuts, paint the needle red, and call it good. The only problem would be that your plastic lens would still have the 30 lb. number but not sure if that would be an issue or not.

UPDATE: I did have the opportunity to measure the distance between the rivets on a '53-'54 TEMP gauge and the distance was 1-1/8" so I assume the OIL gauge would be the same.


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2blu52 
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06-30-20 08:44 AM - Post#2797535    
    In response to RAM_51

Sounds to me as if he wants to keep the stock configuration on the dash. If it were me and I was concerned with the high reading then I would install an after market Gage under the dash in order to know what the high was and use the stock one to keep track of things while driving as it would show any low pressure that might develop.

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06-30-20 10:40 AM - Post#2797545    
    In response to RAM_51

I ended up putting a '53 standard gauge in my '54 Powerglide, knowing that the pressure would hang right around 30, near the max of the gauge. It seemed like a reasonable compromise; you'd have to really look close to know that it was from a different model of car.


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arkansas 
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06-30-20 01:20 PM - Post#2797557    
    In response to dsacton

I bought a set of those aftermarket gauges at Advanced Auto. Took the gauge itself out of the housing and trimmed the face to fit the 49 chevy cluster for my coupe. Had to do some "rigging" to get it to fit just right. Painted the face silver and installed it. I think the max on the new one was 80 psi. I sort of painted the 3 on the 30 into an 8 and called it good. Not show quality, but it works. did the same thing with the ammeter and temp gauge too.

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40grit 
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06-30-20 01:49 PM - Post#2797560    
    In response to arkansas

I bought a cheap volt gauge to convert my ammeter with but have not done anything with it yet.

I hope to make it look stock.

John

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drew1987 
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06-30-20 06:07 PM - Post#2797583    
    In response to 40grit

You guys bring up two things I

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Lead sled 
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06-30-20 08:43 PM - Post#2797595    
    In response to drew1987

I personally don't care for amp meters(can short out,and start a fire). I custom built my gauge panel when refurbing my BelAir. Speedo,tach,oil, temp,gas,and VOLT METER,also the turn indicators,and Hi Low beam
http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL782/13320185/241...

Late yr model (Dec. 51 BelAir/ 52 trim), with a basically stock 67 Camaro SS350/295hp Turbo Fire Edelbrock 1405, Saginaw 4spd/355 geared 55/6 Chevy rear.2,1st place,and 1 top five award trophies so far
http://www.picturetrail.com/bris51deluxe


Edited by Lead sled on 07-01-20 02:25 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
drew1987 
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07-03-20 04:34 AM - Post#2797770    
    In response to Lead sled

That looks great! We 50 folks can

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