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Username Post: Aluminum Radiator        (Topic#361449)
MBELTRAN 
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06-20-20 03:36 PM - Post#2796795    



I put an aluminum radiator in a car im restoring and for some reason the top end of the radiator gets very hot. The bottom is cool and i have a mechanical water temperature gauge that says my engines running at 175 dgrees so i know my engine is not running hot. Also the intake manifold and radiator neck gets really hot and they are also aluminum. Ive never had an all aluminum radiator before, are they supposed to work that way. Doesnt seem right to me. Im running a 180 degree thermostat.





 




Tri5man 
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06-20-20 04:06 PM - Post#2796797    
    In response to MBELTRAN

Why did you buy an aluminum radiator? Copper/brass has a greater cooling coefficient. Is your radiator made in China?



 
MBELTRAN 
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06-20-20 04:08 PM - Post#2796798    
    In response to Tri5man

Its a Champion radiator and probably from China but the question is are they normally supposed to work that way?



 
Tri5man 
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06-20-20 04:13 PM - Post#2796799    
    In response to MBELTRAN

Thats what I figured. I learned a long time ago that when it comes to Brakes, Steering and Cooling you always buy the best. Going cheap on these items will leave you stuck on the side of the road some where. I don't buy anything made in China.

How much quality do you expect for $125.00?



 
MBELTRAN 
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06-20-20 04:22 PM - Post#2796800    
    In response to Tri5man

Its a Champion radiator and probably from China but the question is are they normally supposed to work that way?



 
MBELTRAN 
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06-20-20 04:35 PM - Post#2796801    
    In response to Tri5man

So are you saying youve ran into the same exact problem with cheap radiators? Its doing its job, klit keeps the motor cool just top of the radiators hot.



 
rickityfifty 
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06-20-20 04:56 PM - Post#2796802    
    In response to MBELTRAN

The water comes out of the top of the engine -hot- into the the top of the radiator. The heat is then transferred to the air through the radiator core and the the water comes out the bottom much cooler than it went in. That's how they all work.
Some early systems used no water pump, just relying on the fact of heat rising, creating what they called thermo-siphon to circulate the water around.

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55 Shaker 
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06-20-20 05:14 PM - Post#2796804    
    In response to MBELTRAN

You're all right, it's doing what it's supposed to do.

The older I get, the more dangerous, I am !!!!


 
GreatNorthWoods 
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06-21-20 04:04 AM - Post#2796823    
    In response to MBELTRAN

I've had a Champion aluminum radiator in my '53 Sport Coupe since 2014. It has and still is serving me very well. It keeps my Blueprint 355 engine cool as it should. I am also running a 180 degree thermostat. I have no regrets for buying an aluminum radiator regardless of where it might have been made.

Vern

1953 Chevy Belair Sport Coupe - 355 Blueprint Engine, 700-R4, Vintage Air, EZ Wire, Ididit column, Cruise/Tilt, 59 Vette Steering Wheel, 4-Wheel Disc Brakes, Posies Springs, Coker Radials, Nova 10-bolt, Mustang II front, Continental Kit


 
omarine 
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omarine
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06-23-20 05:16 AM - Post#2796975    
    In response to MBELTRAN

I've also had two Champions and both worked great even in summer S Florida heat in traffic with AC.

If Im not mistaken these are made in CA...

i now run auto city classics, which is unfortunately from China, works very well also.

cheers


61 Impala bubbletop, 283, 2bbl Rochester, generator, points and drum brakes- daily driver
'49 Harley Davidson FL - Panhead


 
MBELTRAN 
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06-23-20 07:27 AM - Post#2796985    
    In response to omarine

So im just being a little paranoid then? Like i mentioned the top of the radiator is too hot for my liking, its gonna take a little getting used to.



 
Tri5man 
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06-23-20 08:04 AM - Post#2796987    
    In response to MBELTRAN

The biggest problem with some cheap Chinese aluminum radiators is that they have the cooling tubes epoxied in place instead of being Tig welded. In the event of a leak it cannot be repaired and becomes a throw away. You can't get much quality for $125.



 
turbo38s10 
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06-23-20 08:18 AM - Post#2796991    
    In response to Tri5man

My 409 with aluminum radiator runs at 170 to 180 and the top of the radiator will burn your hand off. Means its dumping lots of heat as it should.



Edited by turbo38s10 on 06-24-20 06:19 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
omarine 
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06-24-20 06:03 AM - Post#2797073    
    In response to MBELTRAN

to me, it's about the water temp on the mech gauge. I avoid touching it until it cools down, never gave much more thought to be honest...

I think these are TIG welded, never seen the epoxied tubes, will look closer. never seen the $125 radiators to compare

cheers


61 Impala bubbletop, 283, 2bbl Rochester, generator, points and drum brakes- daily driver
'49 Harley Davidson FL - Panhead


 
bobb 
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06-27-20 10:17 AM - Post#2797301    
    In response to MBELTRAN

yes you are paranoid but better to be safe than blow a head gasket. get a 210 degree sensor and wire it to a 2" led marker light to be extra safe. mine sits in a gauge pod and looks cool if you ask me. it is also wired to low oil pressure. i need to get a low fuel pressure sensor to complete the system.

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Edited by bobb on 06-27-20 10:19 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Tri5man 
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06-27-20 12:04 PM - Post#2797308    
    In response to bobb

omarine, if you haven't seen Beltrans radiator how do you know how its constructed?
I know for a fact a lot of cheap Chinese aluminum radiators have epoxied cooling tubes.
If I were you don't bet too much on your statement that Champion radiators are made in California. Not so sure thats true.



 
omarine 
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omarine
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06-28-20 12:13 PM - Post#2797381    
    In response to Tri5man

Tri5man,

I dont know for sure, which is why I stated i should take a closer look. All i do know is that ive tried these radiators and have had luck with them. I put 40k mi on my 61 in 3 years in socal to include a cross country drive in July to the heat of south Florida and never had any water temp issues even with AC on.

Of course there are much nicer ones out there, it’s just that at the time there were more pressing issues to spend the cash on during my restoration.

Cheers
Oscar

61 Impala bubbletop, 283, 2bbl Rochester, generator, points and drum brakes- daily driver
'49 Harley Davidson FL - Panhead


 
Nitroholic 
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06-29-20 09:29 AM - Post#2797441    
    In response to Tri5man

Champion Radiator is located in Lake Elsinore, CA which is about 10 miles from me.
On their website they claim that both their Champion and American Eagle radiators are designed here and manufactured in China (like everything else) using 100% tig welded assembly with no epoxy used in the process.
Believe whatever you want.........

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Edited by Nitroholic on 06-29-20 07:22 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Tri5man 
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06-29-20 02:02 PM - Post#2797458    
    In response to Nitroholic

Isn't that what i posted?



 
Bad56Sedan 
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06-30-20 07:25 AM - Post#2797519    
    In response to MBELTRAN

manufactured 12-2003
epoxy tubes


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Tri5man 
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06-30-20 03:02 PM - Post#2797568    
    In response to Bad56Sedan

As they say seeing is believing. Any more comments?



 




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