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Username Post: 1963 Courtesy Lights Wiring / Location ?        (Topic#361138)
SonicRaT 
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05-26-20 06:31 PM - Post#2794927    

I have a 1963 Impala SS that unfortunately came in boxes and I'm trying to figure out how to route the wiring harnesses while reassembling. I've purchased almost all new American Autowire assmelbies, and most have been fairly self-evident, but I'm having a hard time figuring out where the courtesy lamps mount, where the wires are routed, and how they're plugged in -- ontop of that, I have the SS console and I'm not sure how that is interconnected as well.

I have a host of manuals but nothing seems to definitely show those specific things -- is anyone aware of one that has those diagrams, or does anyone have some general pictures of the wire routing on a factory car or where these lights get mounted under the dash?

I found a few pictures in a previous thread, but they didn't quite seem to match up to an Impala.






 




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05-27-20 03:29 AM - Post#2794946    
    In response to SonicRaT

The wiring and light locations should be in the 63 assembly manual, likely in the RPO section at the back. I don

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pvs409 
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05-27-20 10:26 AM - Post#2794983    
    In response to SonicRaT

You need the 62 assembly manual and probably the shop manual as Don states.

What model engine and tranmission did you buy the American Autowire wiring for ?
The type of wiring changes with Powerglide or 4 speed or even 3 speed.

To my knowledge the console hooks to a circuit breaker mounted to the kick panel.

The white wires on the rear wiring harness feed the two under dash courtesy lights and the switches on the door jambs.

The 63 assembly manual I have shows two pages of the 63 SS console but does not show a picture of the wire routing to the kick panel.

Paul

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circuit breaker for SS console, power seats, power windows


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SonicRaT 
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05-27-20 04:57 PM - Post#2795010    
    In response to pvs409

Thanks. I have the '63 assembly manual, the shop manuals, and the accessories manuals -- wouldn't have thought to try a previous year.

I have the 4 speed wiring and was able to find how everything else was routed, but wasn't quite sure on those courtesy lights and the console. I did manage to find this yesterday on ebay with a NOS courtesy light harness for the '63. I figure the console harness must just join in right around that kick panel area as pictured. I'll see if I can just figure it out from here now that I know where the lights mount.




 
pvs409 
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05-27-20 05:59 PM - Post#2795013    
    In response to SonicRaT

So do you have the courtesy light harness with the white wires and sockets on your American Autowire harness ? All Impala rear harnesses have the courtesy wiring included in the harnesses.
Belair or Biscayne rear harnesses normally do not have the courtesy harnesses.

Note that your factory dash is already drilled for for the courtesy light brackets for the sockets on the harness.

Paul

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62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
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junky 
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05-27-20 06:06 PM - Post#2795014    
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Weren't the courtesy lights only standard on the convertible, and an accessory on all the other body styles of the Impala line up?

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SonicRaT 
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05-27-20 07:18 PM - Post#2795019    
    In response to pvs409

Correct -- the harness has the courtesy light harness built-in, I just wasn't sure where the lights went or how the wire was originally routed to the passenger side. I'll route it similar to the NOS diagram for the add-on harness.

My console harness has a black lead with a socket similar to the fuse-box connectors and the white daisy-chained socket. It looks like I'll connect that down in the kick-panel area, then run that black lead to BAT on the fuse-box to power the console lid lamp. I think I found a picture of how this runs -- down the rubber channel and out next to the seat brackets, running in front of the seat to the console.




 
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05-27-20 07:31 PM - Post#2795023    
    In response to SonicRaT

Yes the wrapped wire to the console runs on the floor pan ridge just in front of the seat on all SS cars, held to the floor by open ended clamps held on with one screw in factory drilled holes into the floor pan(assuming you have original floor pans ).

If you need a pictures of the routing, I have a some.

Paul



57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
SonicRaT 
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05-27-20 07:46 PM - Post#2795026    
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  • pvs409 Said:
Yes the wrapped wire to the console runs on the floor pan ridge just in front of the seat on all SS cars, held to the floor by open ended clamps held on with one screw in factory drilled holes into the floor pan(assuming you have original floor pans ).

If you need a pictures of the routing, I have a some.

Paul





That'd be great if possible -- I've been trying to do as much research and planning ahead of time so I get it all right the first time. I'm sure some of this would just be self-evident as I install everything, but I wanted to be sure if possible.

Unfortunately, this car came from Wisconsin -- over half the metal on it is all new at this point.




 
pvs409 
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05-27-20 08:29 PM - Post#2795030    
    In response to SonicRaT

Here is wire routing for the SS console, the pictures are from my 62 SS but they are the same on your 63.

Paul

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factory SS console wiring routing to the console from the kick panel


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close up of the factory clamps for SS console wiring


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this is the circuit breaker that power windows hook to.(power top convertible) and power bench seat) If you do not have those items, the console should plug into the white wires


57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
SonicRaT 
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05-28-20 12:46 AM - Post#2795043    
    In response to pvs409

Thanks -- that's perfect!



 




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