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Username Post: Oil Dip Stick Shows Overfill        (Topic#361109)
carolinakid 
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05-25-20 06:59 AM - Post#2794737    

Changed oil and filter in 08 Silverado with 5.3 engine. Filled with 6 QTs as specified in owners manual and my oil dipstick shows a overfill. Oil touches first number of the part number on dip stick. Realized from info on the web that this situation has happened to other folks but have been unable to find out what the problem it. Is it with the dipstick? Thanks



 
Tri5man 
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05-25-20 09:50 AM - Post#2794749    
    In response to carolinakid

As you know the oil level is now full. Why not just make a scribe mark on the dip stick at the oil level mark and go down the road?



 
wagonman100 
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05-25-20 12:04 PM - Post#2794775    
    In response to Tri5man

Is that level shown before you started the engine? The oil filter holds some oil and if you didn’t fill the filter before installing it and haven’t started the engine yet, the oil that goes into the filter after startup is sitting in the pan so the dipstick will read over full. I always put at least a little oil in the filter before I install it if the orientation of the filter allows. You have to pour a little in and let it absorb/settle and then add more. You don’t need to fill it completely, but every bit helps to not starve the engine of oil until the filter fills up.

Jay
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1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
carolinakid 
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05-25-20 02:21 PM - Post#2794792    
    In response to wagonman100

I do always fill filter with oil. Checked oil level after startup and shutdown.



 
elcamino 
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05-26-20 03:16 AM - Post#2794851    
    In response to carolinakid

Are you the original owner of the vehicle? If not, someone could have replaced the dipstick with the wrong one.




Mike
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carolinakid 
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05-26-20 02:51 PM - Post#2794907    
    In response to elcamino

Yes, Original owner, Oil Level is 1/2 inch above hash marks or at the number 6 in the part number 12610053. If and this is a big if, if each dot/hole represents 1/4 quart on the dipstick I'm between 1/4 to 1/2 overfilled. Not optimal but I think I can live with it. Thanks to all for responding.



 
wagonman100 
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05-26-20 03:20 PM - Post#2794913    
    In response to carolinakid

I believe the dots are probably closer to 1/2 quart apart. Should be no harm in running it that way. Is this the first time this has shown up after an oil change?

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
rockfangd 
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05-26-20 05:53 PM - Post#2794923    
    In response to wagonman100

Scratching my head here.
I was going to mention the startup check but judging by your sig I figured you did that.
Personally I would drain it until it is in the normal range. OVerfull promotes leaks and oil consumption.
If this is the first time it has happened in your ownership there is only 2 things that come to mind,
Either not all of the oil was drained out...
Or too much oil was put in. I am not saying you did either but those are the only 2 things I could think of

Old School GM fan FOREVER


 
someotherguy 
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05-27-20 07:05 AM - Post#2794969    
    In response to carolinakid

  • carolinakid Said:
Yes, Original owner, Oil Level is 1/2 inch above hash marks or at the number 6 in the part number 12610053. If and this is a big if, if each dot/hole represents 1/4 quart on the dipstick I'm between 1/4 to 1/2 overfilled. Not optimal but I think I can live with it. Thanks to all for responding.


By all accounts I can find online that is indeed a V8 dipstick, covers a lot of applications including 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 6.2...

Has it always read this way? Did you change filter models recently?

I've got a pair of 6.0 trucks here and they take the expected 6 quarts plus a tiny bit, but I'm running a slightly larger filter than stock.

Richard

06 Silverado ISS / 06 Silverado SS / 06 300C SRT8


 
junkman104 
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05-27-20 05:18 PM - Post#2795011    
    In response to someotherguy

What filter are you buying? There is a short and long filter. I always use the long on my truck.



 
someotherguy 
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05-28-20 05:48 AM - Post#2795053    
    In response to junkman104

  • junkman104 Said:
What filter are you buying? There is a short and long filter. I always use the long on my truck.


The filter I've been using on my 2006 6.0 is the Mobil 1 M1-206a (4-3/16" tall), instead of the regular M1-107a (3-3/8" tall.) The other dimensions are the same.

They both have extremely similar application lists, and while I find it puzzling that my SS is on the M1-107a's list but not on the M1-206a's, the Cadillac Escalade with the LQ9 IS on the taller filter's list...with the same exact engine.

So, use at your own risk, though I see no issue with using the M1-206a on my 2006 SS and my wife's 2006 SS as well. They both also get Mobil 1 full synthetic oil, 5W30.

Richard

06 Silverado ISS / 06 Silverado SS / 06 300C SRT8


 
carolinakid 
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05-28-20 01:38 PM - Post#2795074    
    In response to someotherguy

UPDATE. Put my 2008 silverado 5.3 dipstick pn 12610053 in my 2004 silverado 5.3 with dipstick pn 12574888 and both dipsticks measure the same amount of oil in the 2004 silverado 5.3. When I measure the oil dipstick TUBES on both trucks the 2004 tube is about 1/2 in longer. I noticed there is a Gen I and a Gen II dipstick tube. Have checked with a local oil change business and they have experience the same oil overfill issues on 5.3 engines. I believe the issue is with the dipstick tube being too short/mismatched for the dipstick. This is the first time I have changed oil in my truck and have had Dealer do it in past.



Edited by carolinakid on 05-30-20 01:21 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
carolinakid 
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05-30-20 01:20 PM - Post#2795270    
    In response to carolinakid

More Info:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.p...



 
junky 
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06-02-20 06:08 PM - Post#2795507    
    In response to carolinakid

Turn the dipstick over and check again. Some cars, the orientation of the dipstick can give you a false reading.

Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.


 
elcamino 
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06-09-20 11:39 AM - Post#2795994    
    In response to junky

Ford had same problem back in the 90's. The 5.0L engine in cars held 5 qts, 6 qts in trucks. Engine plants put wrong parts in the truck engines and many showed way over full with 6 qts. We had three (3) 1993 F150 4x4 e cabs on out GPS survey team with the wrong dipsticks. One of out die hard Ford lovers made a big stink about overfilling the engine by the lube place and demanded they drain out a qt. They handed him the phone with the service manager at the Ford Dealer across the street who told him like it was, dip stick is wrong, engine plant mistakes. He had been under filling the engine in his F150 truck for nearly 2 yrs. He would use the dipstick and only put in 5 qts even though the owners manual said 6. He would not admit his mistake. Even after the Service manager confirmed it in writing from a service bulletin he still thought they were bs'ing him, he went there to argue with them as he liked to argue over the dumbest things. You can tell a Ford owner but you can't tell him much.

Mike
2017 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate 6.2L / 8-sp Z95
2017 John Deere X738 Snow Blower
2018 Polaris RZR S 900 EPS
2016 Polaris RZR 900 EPS


 
someotherguy 
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06-09-20 12:07 PM - Post#2796001    
    In response to elcamino

  • elcamino Said:
You can tell a Ford owner but you can't tell him much.


Well, what do you expect when they employ parts counter people like this -

Me: "Girlfriend has a 95 F250 7.3 N/A just replaced water pump, need coolant additive test strips"

Parts man: "Just put the additive in"

Me: "Mitchell says I need test strips so the concentration is correct"

Parts man: "Just put the additive in"

Me: "Entire cooling system wasn't drained, just replaced what came out when I did the pump"

Parts man: "Just put the additive in"

Me: "Don't you have the test strips in stock?"

Parts man: "Just put the additive in"

...

It went downhill from there and nearly ended in a fist fight.

By the way I'll never forget the number of bolts to remove the water pump from a n/a 7.3 *after* all the other crap is out of the way. 21 bolts. 21. Then the brand new tensioner broke the dowel off when I pulled it back to install the belt, went for a replacement, installed it, and noticed the belt was off track just enough that the entire accessory drive needed to be shimmed. Factory solution for the issue. F#%@ Ford..

Richard

06 Silverado ISS / 06 Silverado SS / 06 300C SRT8


 
rockfangd 
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06-10-20 05:08 PM - Post#2796107    
    In response to someotherguy

I am sorry but if they had the wrong parts (Admittedly) then they should have been fixed.
If I took My vehicle somewhere for an oil change (never gonna happen) and I checked it to find it overfull I would be not happy.
If the dealer then confirmed there is a dipstick issue my answer would be "And why was it not remedied".
Dont even get me started on the F***s. Not even worth giving it 3 letters lol.
I specialized in fixing the 6.0/365 disasters.
My fingers and arms still let me know from doing the KAMEHASUTRA to work on them. I lost more 8 and 10mm sockets...
Just to change a belt the whole front has to come apart.

Old School GM fan FOREVER


Edited by rockfangd on 06-10-20 05:12 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
someotherguy 
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06-11-20 07:03 AM - Post#2796138    
    In response to rockfangd

  • rockfangd Said:
I specialized in fixing the 6.0/365 disasters.
My fingers and arms still let me know from doing the KAMEHASUTRA to work on them. I lost more 8 and 10mm sockets...
Just to change a belt the whole front has to come apart.


When the belt went on our 2007 F450 6.0 I only removed the upper intercooler tube! I worked completely by braille, skinned the hell out of my hands, wrists, forearms, but I got it done. And that's not even the stock configuration, that's with the added hydraulic pump and its additional idlers!

It took me several hours and I told my boss next time it breaks I'm sure as hell not doing it, he can have it towed to the dealer..

Richard

06 Silverado ISS / 06 Silverado SS / 06 300C SRT8


 
rockfangd 
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06-11-20 03:10 PM - Post#2796164    
    In response to someotherguy

lol. Yup.
Ours were in buses. The only way to change one of the 2 was to pull the shroud that bolts to the front of the engine

Old School GM fan FOREVER


 
elcamino 
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06-12-20 12:41 PM - Post#2796241    
    In response to rockfangd

Everyone of those 1993 F150 4x4s we had had the oil pans rust out. They never painted them. One we had in the shop for R & R of the pan. Wheels would not pay the Ford Dealer for the repair so they had it towed to another shop and shipped in the oil pan. State of Michigan had about 1,000+ of similar trucks (Wheels leased fleet). Anyway, one Monday am the boss said, run down to the service shop and pickup that Ford, they called and said its done. So I took a seasonal with me and went and got. Told him to drive it back. I got on I75 heading back to office (10 miles) and about 10 min later he calls me on the radio to say the truck died and come back. Long story short, shop forgot to put oil in the engine and he got it up to 60 mph coming off the ramp and it blew up, about a mile from the shop. MAP (State Maintenance Assistant Program managed by Wheels) had it towed to auction and brought us Dudge to replace it which was a pos.

One of the F150's is in the pic (me in the middle), US-2 GPS survey circa 1999 Iron Mtn, Mich.

Mike
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2017 John Deere X738 Snow Blower
2018 Polaris RZR S 900 EPS
2016 Polaris RZR 900 EPS


 
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