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Username Post: 64 rear axel bearing        (Topic#360347)
sanee64 
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03-31-20 10:10 AM - Post#2789901    

one side of mine started leaking and ill need to replace. I know i need to order the bearing and lock ring but ive contacted classic industries and show cars but no one is picking up due to covid.

summit or jegs dont seem to have this.

my local napa had it but it was something totally different

seems a bit pricey for local store
https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b/national-292 9...


anyone know where i can get this?




 


pvs409 
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03-31-20 10:52 AM - Post#2789905    
    In response to sanee64

Read this - check DZAUTO(Tom) pictures of the bearings 55-64 bearings..in the first part of the post. It shows the correct 58-64 bearing

https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?t...

Paul

57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
sanee64 
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03-31-20 11:16 AM - Post#2789909    
    In response to pvs409

thanks for that link!! the bearing on my current axel is definitely not what it should be as it has a single little "rubber gasket" and not a double like what it should be (the rw607)

also i went to rock auto to try and order the part but there are two different ones and im not sure of the numbers at the end. which do i need?

rw607br
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=183943...

rw607cr
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=221851...



 
pvs409 
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03-31-20 11:29 AM - Post#2789912    
    In response to sanee64

Send the links to Tom(DZAUTO), he is really good about answering.

He will know.
Paul

57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
cowfarmer350 
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04-01-20 02:55 AM - Post#2789955    
    In response to sanee64

Looks like the same bearing , just one is National brand and the other is SKF



 
sanee64 
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04-01-20 11:32 AM - Post#2789995    
    In response to cowfarmer350

just ordered. big thanks



 
DZAUTO 
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04-02-20 05:15 PM - Post#2790153    
    In response to sanee64

Let me run through everything I can think about rear axle bearings.
First, the pictures below are 55-64 axle bearings. The left is 55-56, middle is 57 ONLY, right is 58-64.
These bearings were made by several manufacturers: Green, Delco, New Departure Hyatt, National, BCA, SKF, National and others. SOME had one O-ring, SOME had two O-rings. Some had small groves and thin O-rings, some had big grooves and thick O-rings. Just because a bearing has one O-ring does not mean it is the wrong bearing.
SOME vendors sell separate seals for the bearings (NOT the O-ring). Buying seal is a waste of money, BECAUSE there is no way that a seal will fit the particular bearing which is on the axle. Also, to replace the seal, the bearing must be removed from the axle. To remove the bearing requires destroying the lock ring. LOCK RINGS ARE NOT AVAILABLE SEPARATELY! The only way to get a new lock ring is to buy a new bearing. New bearings come with a seal and a new lock ring. So, it's just as well to replace the bearing if the seal (NOT the O-ring) is leaking. Also, IF a seal is leaking, that is an indication that the bearing is beginning to go bad, so replacing it is good insurance.

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DZAUTO 
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04-02-20 05:23 PM - Post#2790155    
    In response to DZAUTO

The green seal in the bearing below goes toward the OUTSIDE.
I have seen National bearings on Rock Auto for about $65 and SKF bearings for about $100. I seriously doubt there is any difference, except price, between the 2.


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turbo38s10 
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04-03-20 05:44 AM - Post#2790193    
    In response to DZAUTO

The price difference could be do to one supplying the lock ring and one not. I hanve gotten these bearings both ways but do remember which ones it was.



 
DZAUTO 
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04-04-20 07:33 PM - Post#2790335    
    In response to turbo38s10

  • turbo38s10 Said:
The price difference could be do to one supplying the lock ring and one not. I hanve gotten these bearings both ways but do remember which ones it was.



In over 50+yrs of working on these rearends, I have NEVER, NEVER seen a NEW bearing in the box without the lock ring.



 
turbo38s10 
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04-05-20 08:51 AM - Post#2790366    
    In response to DZAUTO

I said that because I did buy one that didn't have it. That said I did get it from a local bearing company who was able to get me one but that was years back.



 
sanee64 
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04-06-20 11:26 AM - Post#2790488    
    In response to DZAUTO

  • DZAUTO Said:
Let me run through everything I can think about rear axle bearings.
First, the pictures below are 55-64 axle bearings. The left is 55-56, middle is 57 ONLY, right is 58-64.
These bearings were made by several manufacturers: Green, Delco, New Departure Hyatt, National, BCA, SKF, National and others. SOME had one O-ring, SOME had two O-rings. Some had small groves and thin O-rings, some had big grooves and thick O-rings. Just because a bearing has one O-ring does not mean it is the wrong bearing.
SOME vendors sell separate seals for the bearings (NOT the O-ring). Buying seal is a waste of money, BECAUSE there is no way that a seal will fit the particular bearing which is on the axle. Also, to replace the seal, the bearing must be removed from the axle. To remove the bearing requires destroying the lock ring. LOCK RINGS ARE NOT AVAILABLE SEPARATELY! The only way to get a new lock ring is to buy a new bearing. New bearings come with a seal and a new lock ring. So, it's just as well to replace the bearing if the seal (NOT the O-ring) is leaking. Also, IF a seal is leaking, that is an indication that the bearing is beginning to go bad, so replacing it is good insurance.




Big thanks to you on this. The bearing that was on the axel was a single seal like the left or middle on and got the national brand like you recommended. Only gripe was i took it to a store next door to my place and they charged me a poopoo ton to remove and put in the bearing. Never again going there.
But everything is installed and just drove the car home. shouldnt have any leakage. Ill deal with the other side next time i have to take the brakes off or something like that.

Big thanks again



 
DZAUTO 
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04-07-20 06:14 PM - Post#2790592    
    In response to sanee64

Well, I hate to hear that!
If you want to run the next one to me, I'll be happy to replace the bearing for you-----------MUCH CHEAPER.
If a person brings me the axle is out of the car and a new bearing, I'll replace it on the axle for $20. Takes me about 15min to replace a 55-64 axle bearing if the axle is already out of the car.



 
sanee64 
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04-08-20 04:18 AM - Post#2790626    
    In response to DZAUTO

  • DZAUTO Said:
Well, I hate to hear that!
If you want to run the next one to me, I'll be happy to replace the bearing for you-----------MUCH CHEAPER.
If a person brings me the axle is out of the car and a new bearing, I'll replace it on the axle for $20. Takes me about 15min to replace a 55-64 axle bearing if the axle is already out of the car.



Ill just drive to visit a buddy of mine thats about 45 mins away as he works for honda and it would be free. Didnt want to drive and thought id give this shop some business. I also thought it would be like $20. Granted he had to saw the bearing off as he went to almost 5k lbs of pressure and didnt come off even with heat. Took about 35 mins tops and charged me $80......jerk



 
junky 
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04-08-20 09:05 AM - Post#2790643    
    In response to sanee64

If his press only went to 5,000 pounds of pressure, it wasn't up to the job.

Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.


 
62chevy427 
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04-09-20 08:13 PM - Post#2790778    
    In response to DZAUTO

very occasionally one can find the lock ring separate on ebay. i bought one last year. if you have access to a lathe you can make one.

56 bel air ((since 2002)
62 impala ss (since 1965)
65 el camino (since 1969)
66 nova (since 1987)
67 malibu convertible (since 1981)
72 el camino ss454 (since 1985)
83 gmc 4wd (since 1991)
95 impala (new)
15 chevy equinox



 
junky 
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04-09-20 09:00 PM - Post#2790779    
    In response to 62chevy427

They are made of hardened steel.. You know the type that gun barrels are made of.

Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.


 


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