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VintageChevyIron 
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Age: 59
Loc: Rochester, WA
Reg: 01-01-20
01-01-20 09:21 PM - Post#2783463    

It all started here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/tmuexWhTDWkPa7PV8

https://photos.app.goo.gl/YfQAUrvH5GGTTjQb7

https://photos.app.goo.gl/F3VDUwRv72ENDNbHA


https://photos.app.goo.gl/4mcpT4b8yUkHz8kC8

https://photos.app.goo.gl/zpc25KDq7wZhHEF58


It was driven into that garage in 1985 and parked, never moved again until I recently dragged it out and took ownership.

Lots of plans, lots of work, but hope to share progress along the way...











It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


 


Rusty Heaps 
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Loc: Knoxville,TN
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01-02-20 09:20 AM - Post#2783494    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

Nice score! keep us posted on your progress, with lost of pics.

I invest my money in precious metals, mostly rust!


 
57tim 
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57tim
Loc: Cameron, Wi, USA
Reg: 11-09-01
01-02-20 07:58 PM - Post#2783556    
    In response to Rusty Heaps

Good color and find.

57 Bel Air 2dr Ht
327 700r4
http://www.picturetrail.com/tmneid


 
VintageChevyIron 
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Loc: Rochester, WA
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01-03-20 12:02 PM - Post#2783615    
    In response to 57tim

Thanks!

Was originally an Inca Silver car, with a Powerglide tranny.

P/O swapped it to a 3 speed w/floor shift and did the red paint.

It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


 
VintageChevyIron 
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01-05-20 09:42 PM - Post#2783789    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

A few shots of the interior:

Link
https://photos.app.goo.gl/pXw5a4P68AnKFo336

https://photos.app.goo.gl/a6s4XWsLa49ib5GT8

https://photos.app.goo.gl/zbnKr4w3JMnbWG4A6

https://photos.app.goo.gl/CZU5Hu8AL7NzJNVC8




It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


 
VintageChevyIron 
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01-05-20 09:44 PM - Post#2783790    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

Trunk floor:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ezXgy5Rq9uzBxQkMA


Engine compartment, Looks pretty bad, but the engine spins freely:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/vCRdoN2JKTJvGWC9A

It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


 
57tim 
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01-07-20 07:54 PM - Post#2783957    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

Mine had the silver/black cloud interior but the PO changed the interior to red/black cloud and dyed the headliner black and painted over the original Dust rose pearl and white body to red.

57 Bel Air 2dr Ht
327 700r4
http://www.picturetrail.com/tmneid


Edited by 57tim on 01-07-20 07:56 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
swbatt 
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01-22-20 12:27 AM - Post#2784861    
    In response to 57tim

Great way to start the New Year! Welcome to the site and keep the photos coming. The '57 looks good!


"Which do I prefer? Chess or sex? It depends on the position." - Spassky


 
Bad56Sedan 
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Loc: Pasadena, Texas
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01-22-20 09:47 AM - Post#2784887    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

Nice car to start with,
Great fine,
I'm thinking ...............
Ah, it's your car not mine,
Have fun, keep us posted!

VC56S 2 door Sedan, 40 Years

[image]https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/fbbavatars/a v-3564-1354211547.jpg[/image]


 
VintageChevyIron 
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02-20-20 07:21 PM - Post#2786961    
    In response to Bad56Sedan

Been busy with life's other requirements and honey-to-do things that seem to sneak up when you aren't looking.

But, I did come across a parts car, a pretty well cannibalized 4-door, hardtop, but does have some good sheet metal I may be able to get patch panels from here & there.

Also was a factory power brake and power steering car with those parts still attached.

Trying to save up a little to have some of the bigger metal work taken care of. Shooting for Sept or Oct for that, I think some of the good sheet metal on the parts car will help there.

It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


 
VintageChevyIron 
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03-07-20 10:48 PM - Post#2788175    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

Picked up a nice Saginaw 4 speed tranny for a good price.

Have not looked up the numbers yet, but owner said he got it many years ago from an early (73 or 74 can't remember), Camaro that was wrecked.

As he remembered, it had around 50K miles on it.

One more small piece of the puzzle off the list...

It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


 
VintageChevyIron 
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01-15-21 11:00 AM - Post#2812143    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

Been a while, hope everyone made it through the crazy year 2020 was!!

Spent some time working on and getting work done on the 57. Still a ways to go, but making progress when I can.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/v6kiYBJdk13UEwQ59

It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


 
Bad56Sedan 
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01-15-21 05:13 PM - Post#2812171    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

Thanks for sharing!
I hate seeing that location of rust,
I notice the frame appears to be one piece frame,
Just wondering what is the letter after "57" on the vin tag,
That type of rust surprises me if that letter is "O" or "L".
Just curious

VC56S 2 door Sedan, 40 Years

[image]https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/fbbavatars/a v-3564-1354211547.jpg[/image]


 
VintageChevyIron 
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01-15-21 06:34 PM - Post#2812174    
    In response to Bad56Sedan

Yes, it is a one-piece frame, that was from a 4-door, hardtop parts car.

The red car is an Oakland, CA., build. The car was kept under that blue plastic tarp all those years in a garage that was only climate controlled in the sense that it did not get directly rained on.

Thinking the rust formed in those spots due to condensation dripping down and the tarp holding the moisture under it.

It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


Edited by VintageChevyIron on 01-15-21 06:37 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
VintageChevyIron 
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02-25-21 10:57 PM - Post#2815110    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

Got a great buy on a 57 frame that had rust free body perches and was also a Sport Coupe with the extra body mount bracket that my frame I am working on was missing. So instead of having to try and repair the rusted out mounting brackets, I can replace with solid, factory ones.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/VkQfH9aYifhr68mQA

It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


 
VintageChevyIron 
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02-26-21 02:40 PM - Post#2815144    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

Spent some time today working in the shop and took a much closer look at the frame I picked up and it is not a a 57, either a 55 or 56 instead.

I took the fellow at his word it was from a 57 and didn't look at the whole frame over too close as we got it out of where it had been stored for the last decade or two. Well, that meant 2 of the brackets I need are too short it seems.

Pretty sure he believed it to be a 57 and that he was not trying to pull a fast one on me and truth be told, it has more than enough good pieces I need that I can make do with what I have so not too concerned.

It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


 
acardon 
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02-26-21 03:27 PM - Post#2815147    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

According to the parts catalog, all of the body mount brackets are the same for all 3 years. See Group 7.330, Bracket, Body
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/1929_57chevyp...
The 55 leaf spring shackle hanger is narrower than the 56/57 hangers.

Don
66 Corvair (driving)
57 2dr HT (driving)
56 2dr HT (waiting to be restored)


 
VintageChevyIron 
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02-26-21 04:36 PM - Post#2815151    
    In response to acardon

Apparently that is not the case, at least here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kjqqRV9Nz9dUYxiq7

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kCQ7ixedyshMemQFA

https://photos.app.goo.gl/UBe5XE2z4ZkS2LFA8

It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


 
Rick_L 
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Loc: Katy, Tx, USA
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02-26-21 05:10 PM - Post#2815153    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

Those different length brackets had to come from two different locations.



 
VintageChevyIron 
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02-26-21 05:33 PM - Post#2815154    
    In response to Rick_L

Nope, both located in the same position on both frames.

Every other bracket matches each other on both frames except for those two, so no idea what is going on.

I know the gray primer frame is a 57 as I took it off the parts car myself, when I get my project back home from storage I can look under it and see what the same bracket looks like on it and whether it matches the long or the short ones...or as my luck tends to run it could easily not be a match to either! :crazy :

It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


Edited by VintageChevyIron on 02-26-21 05:34 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
acardon 
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02-26-21 06:09 PM - Post#2815156    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

The long bracket is #2 outer and is at an angle where it welds to the frame. The shorter bracket is #3 outer and is square cut where it meets the frame. https://www.trifive.com/d1/garage/57%20Chevy% 20Ass...

https://www.trifive.com/d1/garage/57%20Chevy% 20Ass...

Link to complete Assembly Manual index. https://www.trifive.com/d1/garage/1957%20Chev y%20I...

Don
66 Corvair (driving)
57 2dr HT (driving)
56 2dr HT (waiting to be restored)


 
VintageChevyIron 
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02-26-21 07:03 PM - Post#2815162    
    In response to acardon

You are correct. and the #2, angled bracket on both frames is exactly the same.

The difference I am talking about between the 2 frames is the #3 bracket, which I have included pictures of showing they are clearly 2 different lengths.

I am physically looking at these pieces and they are not the same, but are from the same location on the frame, the longer one on a 1957 frame and the shorter one from the 55/56 frame.

I don't know what more can be said, they are clearly different (regardless of what the manuals or catalogs may say) in this one aspect.

And as I have said, ALL the other body brackets are visually verified on both frames and are exactly alike in size and shape.

No idea why these two (1 one each side) are so different..but they clearly are.



Here are pictures of the #2 and #3 body mounts, can see that #2 from both are the same.

For some reason, as has been shown, #3 is different, by about 2" between the frames.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ksmcg9UjS7wFGqQB8

https://photos.app.goo.gl/MVywfh8WbK2GofhG6

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FYbPpE8JVXB2DjjbA

I should mention, I did not get the ruler in the exact same spot because of the welds and trying to shoot a picture with the other hand, but measuring with both hands, they are the same measurements.



It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


Edited by VintageChevyIron on 02-26-21 07:47 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Rick_L 
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02-26-21 07:06 PM - Post#2815163    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

All the frame info for the body mounts is listed in the assembly manual for each year. The body mount brackets are the same for each body style and for each location. You can add body mount brackets for a body style that needs them, or not use extra ones for a body style that doesn't use them.

The only difference between years is the front frame rail extensions which mount the front bumpers, the location of the rear bumper mount holes and front leaf spring mounting holes - they are the same for 55-56 but 57 is different. Plus the shackle mounts that acardon mentioned. There 55 is one configuration and 56-57 is another. The shackle mounts are not a problem, you just use shackles that match the shackle mount.



 
VintageChevyIron 
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02-26-21 07:38 PM - Post#2815167    
    In response to Rick_L

All I can say is the #3 bracket is different by about 2" between the frames and there is no doubt about that. I have put picture links up to show it.

I just found it interesting that all the others were exactly the same except these particular brackets, and by so much, so I thought I would add it to my thread.




It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


 
56sedandelivery 
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02-27-21 10:55 AM - Post#2815212    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

Being you're in Washington State, and just a day drive up I-5 and Hwy 2, I can provide you with the name and contact information of a friend of mine, who deals in 55-57 Chevrolet cars AND parts. But, it may be easier for you to head to Vancouver, Washington, to Cliff's Classic's. Cliff also deals with my friend from time-to-time for parts he does't have on hand. Contact me via a PM if you need his name/info. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.




 
acardon 
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02-27-21 01:05 PM - Post#2815217    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

  • Quote:
All I can say is the #3 bracket is different by about 2" between the frames and there is no doubt about that.


  • Quote:
Got a great buy on a 57 frame that had rust free body perches and was also a Sport Coupe



OK, the difference is the body style, not the year model. Different body styles have different brackets. Apparently it wasn't a sport coupe.

Don
66 Corvair (driving)
57 2dr HT (driving)
56 2dr HT (waiting to be restored)


 
VintageChevyIron 
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02-27-21 01:29 PM - Post#2815218    
    In response to acardon

Now that makes the most sense of it all, thanks!!

Based on the diagram I was working off of, the body mounts and number matched what should be on a Sport Coupe, so that is what I was going off of as I had no other history on the frame.

The frame I am modifying with upgraded components was not from a Sport Coupe, so that is why I was excited to get this one, along with the brackets being solid and not rusted through like mine are.

Thanks for all the help and info, really appreciate it.

Have a great weekend!!!

It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


 
VintageChevyIron 
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02-27-21 01:34 PM - Post#2815219    
    In response to 56sedandelivery

  • 56sedandelivery Said:
Being you're in Washington State, and just a day drive up I-5 and Hwy 2, I can provide you with the name and contact information of a friend of mine, who deals in 55-57 Chevrolet cars AND parts. But, it may be easier for you to head to Vancouver, Washington, to Cliff's Classic's. Cliff also deals with my friend from time-to-time for parts he does't have on hand. Contact me via a PM if you need his name/info. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.




Personal message sent, thanks!!

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VintageChevyIron 
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02-28-21 04:48 PM - Post#2815304    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

  • VintageChevyIron Said:
  • 56sedandelivery Said:
Being you're in Washington State, and just a day drive up I-5 and Hwy 2, I can provide you with the name and contact information of a friend of mine, who deals in 55-57 Chevrolet cars AND parts. But, it may be easier for you to head to Vancouver, Washington, to Cliff's Classic's. Cliff also deals with my friend from time-to-time for parts he does't have on hand. Contact me via a PM if you need his name/info. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.




Personal message sent, thanks!!




Got the info, but it will not let me message you back, so thanks very much!

It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


 
VintageChevyIron 
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04-03-21 01:13 PM - Post#2817395    
    In response to VintageChevyIron

Got her back home from where she was being stored while I spent some time working on the other frame.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/YfQgLx6zphmxQBHP9

Now it is time to start pulling sheet metal off for more rust work and stripping the good areas down for future repaint.



It is better to be consistently incorrect than inconsistently correct...


Edited by VintageChevyIron on 04-03-21 01:15 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 


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