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Username Post: Drivers window felt.        (Topic#358929)
probelair 
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11-25-19 06:59 AM - Post#2780908    

The felt strip moves up and down with the window. How do i properly repair this. Thanks in advance.



 


Tri5man 
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11-25-19 07:45 AM - Post#2780911    
    In response to probelair

You secure it to the door frame.



 
probelair 
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11-25-19 08:26 AM - Post#2780914    
    In response to Tri5man

With what may i ask.

I havent bought a restoration manual yet. Thanks.



 
omarine 
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11-25-19 09:28 AM - Post#2780920    
    In response to probelair

that felt strip slides up and down, but it's meant to be a tight fit - no hardware required. try to see if you can pull the old one up and out. then place new one in and push down on it while it slides down into place. go slow, you'll see it's fairly simple.

cheers

61 Impala bubbletop, 283, 2bbl Rochester, generator, points and drum brakes- daily driver
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pvs409 
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11-25-19 11:17 AM - Post#2780928    
    In response to probelair

  • probelair Said:
The felt strip moves up and down with the window. How do i properly repair this. Thanks in advance.



are you talking about the chrome beaded track on the vent window assembly ? If so the original rivets are replaced with screws and hex nuts (you have to drill holes in the chrome beaded track to match the original holes....)
I have pictures of this installation..

The rear felt track by the door jamb is held in place by glueing it to the track with 3M spray glue.

Paul


57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
pvs409 
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11-25-19 11:18 AM - Post#2780929    
    In response to pvs409

I am talking about 2 door hardtop vent frames not 2 door sedan...

57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
probelair 
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11-25-19 11:47 AM - Post#2780931    
    In response to pvs409

Its the track that butts up against the wing window.

Was riveted i was told. Can it be used with a tiny screw or do i need a new one?

Thanks



 
junky 
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11-25-19 04:27 PM - Post#2780946    
    In response to probelair

I would purchase a new liner from Restoration Specialties in PA. I glued mine in using a couple dabs of epoxy. I placed some paint stirring sticks into the felt and then using tie raps (commonly called zip ties) I tightened it up till the epoxy dried. That was 20 years ago, and they still haven't moved.

Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.


 
probelair 
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11-26-19 03:52 AM - Post#2780974    
    In response to junky

Any particular type of epoxy/glue to hold the felt track in place?

Thanks



 
pvs409 
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11-26-19 12:34 PM - Post#2781005    
    In response to probelair

Having done 8 vent window restorations in the last 10 years and currently doing 2 more for friends, I would "not glue" in the u shaped felt strips.

What year 61 to 64 do you have and is a Impala ?
Paul

57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
probelair 
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11-26-19 06:16 PM - Post#2781028    
    In response to pvs409

Its a 61 impala Bubble Top.

It looks like there are dabs of glue marks on it now.



 
pvs409 
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11-26-19 09:36 PM - Post#2781038    
    In response to probelair

Pictures will be posted Wednesday of vent window restoration like your 61.

57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
56_Kruiser 
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11-27-19 10:49 AM - Post#2781075    
    In response to pvs409

I'll be interested to see too. I'm updating one of mine now.

I had used silicone. It seemed to hold them fine (not sure it's needed based on the comment above). Wasn't difficult to pull them. Took a few minutes to clean it out for the new install.

1956 Chevy
Vid of 61
61 Chevy


 
pvs409 
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11-27-19 04:48 PM - Post#2781111    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

Attached are pictures of most of the vent window restoration.

1. the first picture shows all the parts to restore the vent windows -the chrome bead is already installed on the vertical tracks in this picture. The condition of your vent window rubbers and the vertical rubber is also something to consider (watch for junk repro rubber parts that do not fit...)
2.the remaining pictures show details of the original rivets on the vent vertical tracks the screws and nuts to replace the rivets.
3 Note that the original chrome bead had 2 square holes (in the pictures )were the vent rubber tabs where installed and bent over in the felt.
4. Note that the chrome bead was originally cut at a angle to match the chrome strips on the vertical tracks.
5.Also you may need new upper Division bar rubber covered stops -at the top of the chrome beaded felt

See the next post for more information on the screws to use 6/32 inch stainless screw and stainless nuts

Paul

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61 and 62 Chevy all the restoration parts to restore the vents


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Original 61 and 62 vent assembly with riveted chrome beaded channel - removed 2 piece factory channel in the picture


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Factory rivets(2 of them) that hold the chrome frames to the vertical channel and one rivet that holds the channel below the chrome vent frame -one more rivet hold the channel-not in the picture at the bottom of the vertical channel


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Picture of the chrome beaded C shaped vent vertical track to replace the original 2 piece track


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back side of the vertical tracks with the screws installed in place of the rivets - chrome window frames not installed in this picture


57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
pvs409 
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11-27-19 05:07 PM - Post#2781114    
    In response to pvs409

more pictures attached of the screws to install the chrome beaded channel.

rubber covered stops at the top of the channel(held in place with small philips screws) are not shown in these pictures. Do not cross tread the small screws at the top of the channel -the treads in the pot metal chrome frames can be ruined if you cross tread the tapped chrome channels.

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original flat headed rivet from vent vertical channel and the stainless 6/32 screw to replace the rivets


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two sizes of 6/32 stainless screws, nuts and lock washers to replace the factory rivets


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picture of the stainless 6/32 screws and hex nuts -purchased from Menards -I use both sizes. 4 screws are needed per vertical channel + the two tabs at the top of the channel that have to be bent over


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picture of the tab locations on the channel that have to be bent over to hold straight channel rubber seal to the channel -top two tabs have to be drilled through the chrome beaded channel and/or add glue to hold only the upper (last 3 inches ) part of the chrome beaded channel


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Picture of the chrome beaded channel cut at a angle to fit the chrome strips and the angled channel itself -to match the factory cut channel


57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
pvs409 
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11-27-19 05:25 PM - Post#2781116    
    In response to pvs409

here is the chrome beaded channel that I use -36 inches long for each piece to fit correctly on the vertical factory vent tracks. For 58 to 62
https://show-cars.com/product/3407

For 63 & 64
https://show-cars.com/product/3405

Paul

57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 


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