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Username Post: El Camino vs Sprint        (Topic#358866)
1carguy 
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Reg: 11-30-08
11-19-19 08:30 AM - Post#2780500    

I've had 4 El Camino's in the past and I've got an itch for another one. Yesterday I found a '71 GMC Sprint SP, bb, AC, bucket seats and console. Owner says there were only 65 built like this and claims it to be pretty rare.
I always thought that the El Camino was more desirable than the Sprint but maybe I'm wrong. I never considered buying the GMC but now I'm starting to think maybe it might be even better, considering they made so few of them. I usually keep cars a few years and move on to the next one but I don't want to get stuck with one that nobody else would want. Any opinions?



 


1carguy 
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11-19-19 09:11 PM - Post#2780562    
    In response to 1carguy

So far 17 views but not even one person has an opinion? I guess my question was either uninteresting or meaningless... or maybe this forum is not really a forum. I'm not sure which. I'm not a frequent visitor here and this last post confirms why...this site is pretty much lifeless. Just look at the "views" count versus the "replies" count and you'll see what I mean....it's pretty much dead at Chevy Talk.



 
junkman104 61
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Age: 61
Loc: Murphy N.C.
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11-20-19 06:36 PM - Post#2780621    
    In response to 1carguy

Yes it's kinda dead. Real only difference between the Camino and Sprint that year was the badging. I doubt the fact it's a GMC makes it worth any more or less than a Chevrolet, just less made.



 
1carguy 
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Reg: 11-30-08
11-21-19 08:19 AM - Post#2780643    
    In response to 55MAS

No doubt that a Chevelle is more popular. The Sprint that I found is a SP 454, TH400, factory AC and cruise control. Off frame restored to original condition. Being a GMC I don't think will really make it worth any less than an Chev.
Thanks for the input...



 
elcamino 
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elcamino
Loc: Lake Superior-Michigan US...
Reg: 03-30-00
11-22-19 07:04 AM - Post#2780735    
    In response to 1carguy

1971 was the first year for the GMC version. Here is a 1972 brochure

https://www.chevelles.com/sprint/


  • Quote:
Of the 249 '71 SPs built, it is estimated that 25 were the SP-454 version. 16 1971 SP-454s are believed to exist at the present time.






Mike
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bobb 
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Loc: paradise
Reg: 09-05-03
11-23-19 10:21 AM - Post#2780828    
    In response to 1carguy

resale may be tricky , especialy if its all original.

70 L camino, grampa engine, g-force 5 spd, road rage suspension. Pray first before all else fails.


 
Stinky 
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Loc: Whitewater, CO
Reg: 05-25-01
11-25-19 06:08 PM - Post#2780949    
    In response to bobb

You left something out...454.

I agree, not really rare in a way that matters.

IMHO....454 will always be desirable.



 
bobb 
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11-28-19 10:41 AM - Post#2781188    
    In response to Stinky

ah, yes the 454 blig block. always a desired vehicle if the original engine is in it

70 L camino, grampa engine, g-force 5 spd, road rage suspension. Pray first before all else fails.


 
mikeyb 
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mikeyb
Loc: Philly
Reg: 02-27-02
12-18-19 05:57 PM - Post#2782441    
    In response to bobb

I have a 71 GMC Sprint, it's the first year. I think they only made something like 2400 of them that year. Since GMC mostly sold to businesses the GMC dealers lobied for an el-camino like vehicle because the business managers wanted them as opposed to a full pick-up. The result was GM rebadged them at the end of the assembly line so yes, it's an el-camino with different badges and VIN. Mine has a factory 4-speed, SS dash option and console. A blast to drive and way cheaper than a similarly optioned Chevelle.

The SP is super rare and desirable because the brochures didn't show it is an option. The SP was supposed to be the SS equivalent in chevrolet terms. The folklore is that those were usually ordered when someone went to the dealership and went through the option list and noticed it.

So is it any more or less valuable? I talked to a local classic car dealer and he thought it would be slightly more valuable because it is unique. That's been my experience, most people never heard of one so it's a great conversation starter. Good news is that the parts for el-caminos fit no problem and they even repro the Sprint badges.

Good Luck if you're still deciding.
Mike



 
elcamino 
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12-22-19 04:44 AM - Post#2782647    
    In response to mikeyb

  • Quote:
The result was GM rebadged them at the end of the assembly line


Somewhere in my stash of old Chevy build sheets I have one for a GMC Sprint. The build sheet it printed out at every work station as the vehicle enters the assembly line so the knew it was a GMC sprint before the assembly started. How else would they know how many parts they needed? With 1,000's of workers on the assembly lines they had to preplan and sequence all the vehicles because most GMAD plants built other models, Buick, Olds, Pontiac on the same assembly line.

1966 to 1969, only Baltimore, Fremont, and KC were assembling el caminos

1970 & 1971, Van Nuys, Baltimore & KC built El Camino's.

Info from some old GM historical publication;

  • Quote:
One of the most dramatic points in the automobile assembly process at the new General Motors plant in Fremont, Calif., is the "body drop" station on the final assembly line - onto their matching chassis which have been assembled in another area of the plant. Linking together all production departments throughout the two-million square foot facility, an electronic "broadcasting" system assures that the correct parts and accessories for a given car will arrive at the proper place at exactly the right time.





Trivia:
Euclid, OH also built 1964 El Camino bodies for delivery to Baltimore & KC and in 1965 for Atlanta & KC.


Mike
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elcamino 
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elcamino
Loc: Lake Superior-Michigan US...
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12-22-19 04:54 AM - Post#2782650    
    In response to elcamino

Although things have advanced leaps and bounds this still needed to preplan production even back in the old days.

Current system

Here's a abbreviated version of GM
order status event codes today.

Code Event Code Description
1000 = Order On Hold at Dealership
1100 = Preliminary Order (Order passed GM edit tables but dealer has not received allocation to place order)
2000 = Accepted By GM (Dealer used allocation to place order into production)
2500 = Preferenced (Order sent production control)
3000 = Accepted By Production Control (Order input into the production system)
3100 = Sequenced (Order sequenced for Production)
3300 = Scheduled For Production (Order is scheduled into the plant build cycle)
3400 = Broadcast (Order is sent to various build & supplier areas to bring order together)
3800 = Produced (Order is built and VIN# shows in the Dealer Order system now)
4150 = Invoiced (Order is invoiced to the dealer)
4200 = Shipped (Vehicle is shipped to the dealer or point of delivery)
4300 = Intermediate Delivery
4800 = Rail Ramp Unload
5000 = Delivered To Dealer
6000 = Delivered To Customer
9000 = Order Cancelled
* Target Production Week (TPW) is usually available by status code 3300.



Mike
2017 GMC Sierra Denali Ultimate 6.2L / 8-sp Z95
2017 John Deere X738 Snow Blower
2018 Polaris RZR S 900 EPS
2016 Polaris RZR 900 EPS


 


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