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Username Post: Wheel cap escape        (Topic#358749)
Tanxane 
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11-09-19 02:19 AM - Post#2779820    

I can not keep my wheel hubcaps on the rims because they get ejected very quickly and they destroy the schrader valve.
I tried to bend their teeth to improve their grip but it didn't work.
So now, the paint of the rims is destroyed and I have to change one inner tube.

Maybe a tube with metal valve would be better but I can't find one.

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


 


GreatNorthWoods 
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11-09-19 02:50 AM - Post#2779821    
    In response to Tanxane

I had a similar problem on my '53.

I was running some 55 Olds flippers which are some expensive hubcaps to lose. I finally gave up and went with these instead...


Attachment: New_Hubcaps.JPG (3.05 MB) 2 View(s)




Vern

1953 Chevy Belair Sport Coupe - 355 Blueprint Engine, 700-R4, Vintage Air, EZ Wire, Ididit column, Cruise/Tilt, 59 Vette Steering Wheel, 4-Wheel Disc Brakes, Posies Springs, Coker Radials, Nova 10-bolt, Mustang II front, Continental Kit


Edited by GreatNorthWoods on 11-09-19 02:51 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Tanxane 
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11-09-19 05:13 AM - Post#2779826    
    In response to GreatNorthWoods

Yes but you have these very nice chrome wheels and I have the original one.with the original 54 hubcap

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


Edited by Tanxane on 11-09-19 05:13 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
hpva 
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11-09-19 05:57 AM - Post#2779827    
    In response to Tanxane

If it is always the same one maybe your rim is slightly bent.Mine don't fall off but they tend to turn on the rim causing the valve stem to get bent over.



 
40grit 
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11-09-19 06:33 AM - Post#2779829    
    In response to hpva

I have been told the original wheels flex more with the modern radial tires. I personally don't know if that is true but it could be.

If you have access to a mig welder, you can add a few quick zaps that the wheel cover will catch. If the car has tubeless tires it can be done on the car. With tubes they will have to be dismantled.

I have known guys to do this but use caution, it could make removing the cover more difficult.

John



Just Slightly Abrasive


 
Tanxane 
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11-09-19 06:34 AM - Post#2779830    
    In response to hpva

Same but when the valve is bent, the hub get ejected. And my 4 wheels have this problem.

@40grit : I could do some weld but I think after that it could be very hard to remove the hubcaps.

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


Edited by Tanxane on 11-09-19 06:40 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
2blu52 
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11-09-19 07:40 AM - Post#2779833    
    In response to Tanxane

could prove to be a bad idea from a balance point of view.

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hpva 
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11-09-19 03:28 PM - Post#2779851    
    In response to 2blu52

Watched the video of your car, that`s a sweet ride.Beautiful car.



 
56sedandelivery 
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11-09-19 03:41 PM - Post#2779852    
    In response to hpva

You could take VERY SHARP cold chisel, and place some "stake marks" where the hub caps/wheel covers "gripper tines" attach themselves to the wheel. Which brings up another point; are these hub caps or wheel covers, there is a big difference? It seems the two terms get tossed back and forth, meaning the same thing, and they're not.
I am Butch/56sedandelivery.




 
Cruzin Okie 
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11-09-19 05:05 PM - Post#2779858    
    In response to Tanxane

I had that problem on a 1955 I had some years ago. Sounds crazy but, I put a large blob of silicone on the catches on the cap and when it dried it held the caps from turning and coming off.

Johnnie

1950 styleline deluxe sports coupe, 350 cid, TH 400, nova rear end. Gen IV Vintage air. SOLD!
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Tanxane 
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11-10-19 04:43 AM - Post#2779884    
    In response to 56sedandelivery

@ hpva : Thank you, I still have some work on it.

@ 56sedandelivery : Sorry, my english is not perfect and you are right, they are wheel covers and not hub caps. the marks will stop them from coming off but not from turning and the main problem is that when the wheel cover is turning, the valve is levering it about 1/2" and at the end, the gyroscopic effect is ejecting the cover in a big noise.

@Cruzin Okie : on the 55, you had wheel covers as well ?

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


Edited by Tanxane on 11-10-19 04:43 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
bobb 
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11-10-19 09:49 AM - Post#2779898    
    In response to Tanxane

if they come off on turns then your rims are probly flexing . if they come off going straight there may be an imbalance problem. pics would help. if originality is not a concern small machine screws threaded into the rim may work. gotta have pics.

70 L camino, grampa engine, g-force 5 spd, road rage suspension. Pray first before all else fails.


 
40grit 
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11-10-19 10:06 AM - Post#2779900    
    In response to bobb

I had forgotten about it but someone else had mentioned silicon would hold them some time ago.

It certainly would not hurt to try. At least you don't need to damage anything to experiment with it.

John

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rickityfifty 
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11-10-19 02:06 PM - Post#2779918    
    In response to 40grit

Silicon works well. Just use 3 or 4 equal spaced generous smears, let it set overnight. No more rattles or watching wheel covers getting run over by oncoming trucks. I did it on my 67 C10 for exactly that reason.

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Dean50 
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11-10-19 07:46 PM - Post#2779944    
    In response to bobb

When I put radials on a '56 Merc I had the wheel covers would fly off in turns due to the wheels flexing. Spread the tabs out a bit more to hold the covers on tighter and that solved the problem for me.

Dean50



 
Tanxane 
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11-11-19 12:25 AM - Post#2779951    
    In response to bobb

@ bobb : I don't think it's an imbalance problem, I thought about the screws but I would have to drill the cover and the rim and I'm not happy with that.

@ Dean50 : I did spread the tabs and I sharpened the little teeth but did not work.

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


Edited by Tanxane on 11-11-19 12:25 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
bobb 
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11-16-19 08:50 AM - Post#2780284    
    In response to Tanxane

looks like your gonna use silicon. silicon is a good glue but it can be corrosive.

70 L camino, grampa engine, g-force 5 spd, road rage suspension. Pray first before all else fails.


 


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