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Username Post: Anyone use RideTech leaf spring in pocket kit?        (Topic#358734)
chevymike 
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11-07-19 10:38 AM - Post#2779730    

Hi all,

Looking to do a RideTech Street Grip system on my '55 210 4 door wagon and wanted to find out if anyone has used the RideTech leaf spring in a chassis with a pocket kit installed?

I called RideTech and they could not say 100% it would work and do not know of anyone who has done it.

I want to use this kit but am debating if I am going to narrow the 8.8 rear end for some deeper offset wheels (love the look). From what I have read, the narrowed rear will not work with the stock spring locations due to caliper clearance.

Thanks!

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Bad56Sedan 
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11-14-19 01:02 PM - Post#2780154    
    In response to chevymike

The width of the Ride Tech spring is the issue.
Will they fit inside the pocket?
If they do, what amount of weight will they support?
I do not have any weight load information on stock springs.
5-6-7 rear leafs are ~2" wide.
It is not necessary to narrow the rear axle in some cases, but the spring pads must be moved.
Moving the leaf springs alone limits tire width to no more than what you have now. Due to the stock wheel tub location.
Moving the wheel tubes alone really does not help either because you are limited to the location of the leaf springs.
There is some debate at how wide a stock set up is limited too, which is about a 275/60/15 tire which would not fit on my car but a 265/60/15 would.
Pocket kit tubs takes you about 13" wide tire where all stock is about 9"
But you are asking about leaf springs, 2" wide springs all that will work, but if you back half the car the sky is the limit. But I order to get that deep dish rim, you must do all three.

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chevymike 
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11-15-19 09:58 AM - Post#2780218    
    In response to Bad56Sedan

According to RideTech, the springs at the mounting points are the same specs as factory springs. The main difference and hence my question is due to bushing mounts are formed aluminum pieces that are bolted to the fiberglass springs. I am concerned about the aluminum parts hitting the frame in the pocket as the suspension cycles up and down.

This is why I was looking to see if anyone had any actual experience with these springs in a pocket kit. Width of the bushing is not the issue.

Thanks

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Bad56Sedan 
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11-15-19 04:32 PM - Post#2780241    
    In response to chevymike

Still the limit is the width of the pocket, the set up you are talking about has to be 2" wide up to about 8" back from the front eyelet bolt, then you clear the pocket and the spring could be wider.
The front of what ever leaf you are running swings up and down at the pivot point of the front eyelet bolt, but width of any part of it is limited to the width of the pocket which is about 2".
So regardless of how the fiber glass leaf is attached to the aluminum eyelet it can only be 2".
I hope this helps for what you are asking, it's a real fun job, but it does look kick ssa.

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11-15-19 04:47 PM - Post#2780242    
    In response to chevymike

Ok I see it now, the thickness at the eyelet and they are reverse eyelets on those springs, yes interesting question, not horizontal width but vertical thickness of the aluminum eyelet could be an issue.
So what you want to know is how much room is there vertically above the eyebolt.
You need that measurement.
You need the depth of the pocket from the eyebolt center to the inside top of the pocket, and maybe a stock spring eyelet measurement.

No reason to buy those if they are too thick.
Is this what you are looking for?
Will get that measurement shortly.



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11-15-19 05:25 PM - Post#2780249    
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The depth of the pocket is 3 3/4" at the eyebolt location.
The original center of the eyebolt location is 2" from the bottom which gives you 1 3/4" from the center of the bolt to the top of the inside of the pocket.


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11-18-19 08:33 PM - Post#2780472    
    In response to chevymike

Looks like no one has done this.

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chevymike 
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11-19-19 12:58 PM - Post#2780530    
    In response to Bad56Sedan

Thanks guys for all the info and pic. Yeah, I am thinking no one who is on the site or another Tri-5 forum I am on have used the RideTech springs with a pocket kit.

Yeah, I am fairly set on using the RideTech Street Grip kit. A buddy picked up one and I was checking out the springs and they are nice and weigh about 35 lbs. I can pick one up one handed, from the end of the spring.

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11-25-19 11:15 AM - Post#2780927    
    In response to chevymike

The biggest issue people run into with reverse eyelet springs on Pocket kits is the rear pocket is cut at a 90 degree angle to the frame at the leading edge. What I needed to do was cut the leading edge at a approximate 30 degree angle, weld in a .125" plate to clear the spring from rubbing on the frame. Now if you are in the process of installing a pocket kit all you need to do is bend the leading edge of the rear cut in at a 30 degree angle and you will solve the problem.
Now regarding what width tires can be run, I am running Nitto Drag radials 29"x 295/50x18 on an 11" wheel. I still have about 1.5" clearance to the inside frame rail so a deeper dish wheel and even larger tire could be run if you had a narrowed axle.
Bob

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chevymike 
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11-27-19 07:51 AM - Post#2781056    
    In response to HYPR

HYPR - Thanks for that info. Makes sense. Thanks for taking the time and the pictures!

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