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Username Post: Replaced 2014 Yukon front wheel bearing hub        (Topic#358693)
YOUNG57 
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11-03-19 08:12 AM - Post#2779443    

I had to replace the right front wheel bearing hub on my 2014 Yukon with only 105,000 miles.

No big deal other than cost of the hub. But just surprised it failed so early. Now wondering when the other one will fail.




 
wreckmech 
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11-03-19 08:49 AM - Post#2779447    
    In response to YOUNG57

2001 & up you can just about bet that they'll fail around 80-90k...my 93 had 189k on them when I sold it with the original hubs. My 06 failed at 86k, and my friends 03 failed at 78k. I changed both to Timkens in my 14 preemptively at 90k...You did pretty good if it was original.



 
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11-03-19 12:35 PM - Post#2779459    
    In response to wreckmech

I would not be surprised.
Nearly every newer hub or bearing I have seen that failed was nearly completely dry of grease.
I have seen them fail with as low as 20k on them. From new.
If one side failed you can count on the other side failing.
My 90 finally had one fall apart at about 190k. It was the first one on that one I had changed

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YOUNG57 
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11-03-19 02:36 PM - Post#2779474    
    In response to rockfangd

Thanks for responding and advice. Hate to hear this.
I had a 2003 and gave it to my son in 2014 with 150,000. Now it has over 300,000 and still has original hubs, go figure.

Now my 2014 hubs are failing.

Where did you get your Timkens?




 
wreckmech 
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11-03-19 05:30 PM - Post#2779483    
    In response to YOUNG57

I ordered mine from RockAuto. I got lucky and got a set that were still made here in the USA. You have to be careful of Timken now, because some of them are made in South Korea. I'm curious to see how long they last compared to the older ones.

Most guys I know now use Moog's. I also usually change them in pairs.



 
YOUNG57 
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11-03-19 06:59 PM - Post#2779491    
    In response to wreckmech

Rockauto Moog, good to know, thanks



 
rockfangd 
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11-03-19 07:25 PM - Post#2779495    
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I used to buy nothing but Timken, but with the changes that I have seen with them make me buy another brand.
That would be Moog. I am impressed with the look and quality of the bearings. Theres a but here though. I have had a few of them fail within the first year... Howl like hell.
The good thing is they are warrantied but who wants to do the job twice in a year??
I have done tons of bearings and surely always torque the axle nuts to proper spec. So I can honestly say that is not cause for failure.
I bought a SKF a while back for one of my Caddys. I had just bought the car so I did not want to spend alot.
Anyway a few years later I was coming home from a 6 hour trip, stopped to get gas a block from my house, hit a bump coming out of the gas station and I swear I thought the wheel was going to fall off. When I took the nut off the whole think fell apart. It only had 8k miles on it. Strictly seasonal driven.
Had that happened on the highway it could have been much worse outcome

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Edited by rockfangd on 11-03-19 07:30 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
YOUNG57 
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11-04-19 07:01 AM - Post#2779521    
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Now, I’m leaning toward Timken again.

Shopped RockAuto and Amazon and they both have Timken SP50031s and both show “Made in USA” on the bearings. They are within a few dollars of each other and Amazon is free two-day shipping.

Considering replacing both sides even though I just replaced one with an ACDelco one. Worried it won't last any longer than the originals.




Edited by YOUNG57 on 11-04-19 07:02 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
fuzz1957 
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11-04-19 08:34 PM - Post#2779562    
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My 2005 GMC 1500 - passenger side at 28,000 and driver side at 32,000. “Professional Grade” - right! First one went out long ways from home. Stopped at GMC dealership and their service department said they were too busy to look at it. Was a Friday morning and they said to come back Monday or I should really go to Mills Chevrolet down the road. Mills got me right in and were very professional. The GMC dealership/service manager - not so much . Looking at new pickups now. No surprise it’s not a GMC - like the RAM. GM put out an inferior product and won’t admit to it.

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11-06-19 05:48 AM - Post#2779656    
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  • YOUNG57 Said:
Now, I’m leaning toward Timken again.

Shopped RockAuto and Amazon and they both have Timken SP50031s and both show “Made in USA” on the bearings. They are within a few dollars of each other and Amazon is free two-day shipping.

Considering replacing both sides even though I just replaced one with an ACDelco one. Worried it won't last any longer than the originals.




I installed the Timken from rockauto almost 2 yrs ago, in my 2008 Silverado. Took under 2 hrs to do. I just put 2 Moog hubs in my 2006 Equinox, also from rockauto. Those took 5 days to do!


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YOUNG57 
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11-06-19 07:02 AM - Post#2779659    
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Tommy49,
What was the difference / trouble that it took 5 days to install Moogs?




 
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11-06-19 08:30 AM - Post#2779665    
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  • YOUNG57 Said:
Tommy49,
What was the difference / trouble that it took 5 days to install Moogs?




Getting the old ones out of the Equinox spindles. They were frozen tight! I made a hub buster and welded it to the hubs, didn't budge. It took removing the lug studs and drilling the holes out to use 7/16" bolts to push the hubs out. But that had it's owns issues. There wasn't enough to push evenly with 3 bolts, so it was push with 2 bolts, pry, beat, and cuss.


Tommy

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YOUNG57 
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11-06-19 05:00 PM - Post#2779690    
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I hope that is unique to Equinox.

My son had a 2001 Trail Blazer and the spare tire lift cable fouled trying to lower it. Had to cut it and scrap the whole assembly. Seems that was a common problem too.






 
rockfangd 
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11-06-19 06:10 PM - Post#2779694    
    In response to YOUNG57

It is common for them to weld themselves in.
Aluminum knuckle with steel hub.
Dissimilar metals.
The 1 ton trucks have a o-ring for whatever reason that does not help things either

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YOUNG57 
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11-12-19 04:35 PM - Post#2780067    
    In response to tommy49

Well, got two Timken Made in the USA front wheel hubs from RockAuto and installed them today. Turns out the two original hubs I replaced, one failed, are both Timken Made in the USA also.

That does not give me much confidence the new ones will last more than 100,000 miles. I’ll save the good original hub for a replacement should one of these fails.

I checked with my GMC dealer parts department for their OEM replacement. $400+ for an ACDelco Korean made hub.




 
rockfangd 
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11-12-19 07:31 PM - Post#2780082    
    In response to YOUNG57

Yup. Sad. When you buy GM parts you are supporting Korea.
Glad you got them changed out.
Should be good for awhile.

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someotherguy 
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11-26-19 02:55 PM - Post#2781020    
    In response to rockfangd

Just replaced one on my 2006. I should have done both but at 120K miles with one hub very obviously bad, and the other one tight and quiet, I can only assume (famous last words) that the good one has been replaced at some point before I bought the truck.

Bought GM FW313 / 84356638 (truck is a 2006 Silverado SS) in hopes of getting a quality bearing and warranty, just under $200 with tax and free shipping, SOB is made in Korea. Box was in great shape, too..





Anyway, the bearing had apparently been bad much longer than I had realized. For quite a while, the front end had a slight intermittent pop noise when I would turn, which I assumed was some other front end part that needed attention. Once the bearing recently started making a scraping noise, I checked it and detected the slop in it. On replacement, the pop noise is gone, too.

Richard

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rockfangd 
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11-27-19 05:50 PM - Post#2781121    
    In response to someotherguy

So you basically paid that for a Korean part.
I used to buy ACDelco ones but I was finding a higher failure rate of them.
I used to preach to ACDelco parts. Shoot most of the replaced parts on my 90 were oem.
Until I could no longer get them of known good quality.
I dont think overseas uses high QC standards, and who inspects the parts before they make it out into the market...


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