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Username Post: Left side door hinge...        (Topic#358478)
6T5 
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10-16-19 01:11 PM - Post#2778047    

I've been hearing a pop noise when I open and close the door in the bottom hinge on the left side. The upper flat steel that's hinged by the fixed pin has movement in it causing the pop. Is there any common fix for this? Thanks...

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...Ed

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bigbowtielover 
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10-16-19 03:54 PM - Post#2778059    
    In response to 6T5

There's a roller wheel on bottom of hinge that rolls on plate. Oil it.



 
vet65b 
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10-16-19 04:18 PM - Post#2778060    
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6T5,
I went through this two years ago. The shop manual says to remove the hinge, you first remove the fender. After heating/bending a 9/16" wrench I was able to remove the hinge and make my repair, but this was one nasty, time consuming job! If I had to do it over again I would probably remove the fender. Let's see what others on the DB have done to correct a worn hinge.
Almost forgot! A bent wrench is available online to facilitate this job. Good luck! Bill




 
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10-16-19 08:10 PM - Post#2778072    
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Assuming that it hasn't bent the mounting plate, I'd hit the wheel mentioned earlier with PB Blaster first, then try to rotate it with a pair of vise grips. If you can get it to turn, work it until it is free then lube it with a good quality lubricant.

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jktucker92 
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10-17-19 06:28 AM - Post#2778092    
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In my case, the roller had been stuck for many years before I investigated it, and it had deep groves cut in it from the metal plate it rolls on. I had no choice but to replace the roller. I'm in the middle of a body off restoration, so the hinges were off the car when I did the repair, so it wasn't hard. I could not find a place that sold rebuild kits for the '65-'66 doors, but I noticed that the hinges looked identical to the '64 hinges, so I ordered a kit for a '61-'64. The parts fit perfectly. As I recall, the only difference was the length of the pin, which I shortened by 1/2" or so.



 
6T5 
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10-17-19 10:52 AM - Post#2778121    
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First of all I appreciate the responses but it's not the detent wheel as it is turning good. In the first picture take note from the blue line that the top plate at the fixed pin is flush at the end with the bottom one. In the second pic with the white line, notice the top flat plate has moved in from being flush with the bottom one. The hole in the top plate seems to have wallowed out bigger were the fixed pin goes through causing slack and the popping noise. Can any repair be done to this? Thanks...

...Ed

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6T5 
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10-17-19 11:03 AM - Post#2778122    
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...Ed

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Edited by 6T5 on 10-17-19 11:06 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
6T5 
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10-17-19 11:04 AM - Post#2778123    
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10-17-19 05:19 PM - Post#2778147    
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Ed,
From your description it sounds like the brass bushing the pin rides in has broken. New bushings and pins are available from several sources. I can't remember if these can be installed without removing the hinge. Bill



 
6T5 
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10-18-19 02:52 PM - Post#2778196    
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I'm not sure there is a bushing in this location well at least I haven't seen one but thanks...

...Ed

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10-18-19 08:26 PM - Post#2778215    
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Ed,
The pin inside the hinge rides in a brass bushing. If your pin is moving back and forth the bushing is broken/missing. Each hinge has a bushing at each end of the pin. Support the door at it's end and try tapping the bottom of the pin up. Make SURE the door is supported so that when the pin is removed the door does not move enough to damage your paint.
I hope I am reading your description of the problem correctly! Bill



 
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10-19-19 01:32 AM - Post#2778218    
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Here is the area again from this angle and the pin is very short and has the bottom end factory pressed against the lower piece. I mean to get it apart you would almost have to grid off or drill out the bottom of the pin. Has anyone taken this section apart? Thanks...

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...Ed

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10-19-19 12:10 PM - Post#2778246    
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Ed,
Okay, I mistook the pin in your pictures for the pin that joins the two half's of the hinge together. Sorry 'bout that. Bill



 
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10-19-19 01:48 PM - Post#2778249    
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No problem Bill thanks for your input. I'm thinking about releasing the spring, grinding the wedge off of the bottom of this pin and then tapping the pin up and out. If the pin is not wallowed out then that is good, if it is I'll weld fill it and grind it back down smooth. If the upper plate hole is wallowed out I'm thinking about placing a copper bushing or filler of the proper diameter inside the hole and welding in the void or wallowed out area. Then remove the filler then grind the top and bottom down smooth. Next reinstall the upper arm with the original pin and weld the pin to the bottom arm. Should be good to go. How does that idea sound being I feel like I'm out of choices? Of course I'll make this a winter project...

...Ed

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10-19-19 03:15 PM - Post#2778257    
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Ed,
That sounds like a job almost as big as pulling the fender. Is the paint on your car good enough that you don't want to pull a fender, or don't have a safe place to store it while the hinge is replaced? Lack of room is what kept me from pulling my fender. Good luck with this! bill



Edited by vet65b on 10-19-19 03:16 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
6T5 
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10-20-19 02:27 AM - Post#2778284    
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Paint is good, thanks Bill...

...Ed

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bigbowtielover 
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10-21-19 08:19 AM - Post#2778409    
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Just get a good used replacement hinge. The hole in the plate is ovaled out and the rivet pin is most likely worn out also. You could grind it apart and weld up and redrill the hole but it's just way easier to replace the whole unit.



 


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