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Username Post: '67 top install and couple of pics        (Topic#358460)
df0rster 
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10-15-19 11:30 AM - Post#2777945    

Finally got all the hydraulics working. So now to install the top.

I called around and labor to install is about $1000 average. So I'm not gonna go that route.

The car came with a top from Kee Tops that includes the black pinpoint vinyl top and the pad. I had to order a glass for it and some basic install stuff from convertible top guys, tack strip, glue, hold down cables and I also ordered their install manual.

So anybody that has done this before, I'd appreciate tips and advice! I may try to video some of the steps and/or take pictures. I haven't found any videos on youtube of anyone installing a 60's GM convertible top. That would be really handy. But I'm hoping the install manual is what I need.

couple pics below, but they don't show much detail..

Tips appreciated!!

Top laid on



Frame folded down.




 


Thierry 
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Thierry
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10-15-19 01:46 PM - Post#2777953    
    In response to df0rster

I'm looking forward to learning from your experience. I too want to change the convertible top in the near future.

May I ask your location? I'm in Southeastern PA

Thierry B. 67 Impala Conv, 327, TH-350


 
df0rster 
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10-16-19 08:47 AM - Post#2778023    
    In response to Thierry

I'm in Oklahoma, near Tulsa.

The more I look everything over, it doesn't seem overly difficult. But I might be way off (I probably am). Worst case is I may have to end up taking it to a shop to do it right. but I probably won't ruin the top unless I cut it too short somewhere.

Hopefully I'll be able to post some pics and info next week. Hoping to get to work on the top this weekend if I get all my stuff. But I think the window has to be made. I've not dealt with the convertibletopguys before so not sure how long they take to ship.





 
df0rster 
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10-16-19 08:52 AM - Post#2778024    
    In response to Thierry

I do have another question. I'm trying to find the screws that hold that curved aluminum rear strip into the well. Do you have a pic of those screws? They might also hold the gutter in but I'm not sure. mine were already all gone from the body shop. I couldn't find any laying around to fit it so I need to buy some. They look like a large head #12 sheet metal screw but I'm not sure, and I can't find a set for sale specifically for the tack strip.



 
Thierry 
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10-19-19 09:41 PM - Post#2778280    
    In response to df0rster

Sorry for the long delay. I'm in the process of being able to post pictures. In the meantime, are you talking about those:

https://www.classicindustries.com/product/1967/che...

Thierry B. 67 Impala Conv, 327, TH-350


 
59fins 
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10-21-19 08:27 AM - Post#2778400    
    In response to Thierry

I installed a top on a 68 Cadillac DeVille a long time ago, I’m sure it is the same principles, my friend bought this car years ago with a new top in the trunk, his old top was rotted about the back 1/3rd, car was “fairly” rust free except the front header.

Now with being said, I offered to do the top, (pre-Internet) but thought I would put the top on the car, it wouldn’t look any worse than it did,,, so

Opened the box/ bag it came in ( brand ? Have now idea) but it was probably a cheaper top... but it had an instruction paper in it and was pretty generic, after taking old top of and my friend being cheap as no extras if possible,

First and hardest part was the header at windshield, it had hooks or tabs the hold the tack strip, many were missing and or rusted off after bending them, I stopped at an upholstery shop looking for tack strips and told the guy at the shop what I was up to, and already had a top, and if he had any tips, he said the hardest part was the sail panels, so they were tight, and to make sure to put new cushions? on the top frame that the top sides and where top meets convertible frame (pads) , , one on each side and pads, if you need weather strips, now is the time to do that! if I remember I all ( this was 25 some years ago) so I removed the header, had it sand blasted, and cut tabs welded them in place, painted it and re-installed it, was kind of crude, but you cannot see it, and the new tack strips were a urethane? Almost rubber if I remember the guy at shop at that time said the original ones were a ( for lack of a better word) card board type material, probably why they rusted? Said to lay cushions install cables, hydraulic’s worked so did not have to deal with them, lay the top on car and center it as best as I could starting at rear center and work your way out from there, connect rear cables when you got to that point, the rear from what I remember was not to bad, it was not tack strips, bolt on brackets? That covered 6-4 inches at a time, just keep in mind the header has the tack strip so no room for mistakes there in length.
So you would have better part of top on before tacking top to front tack strip, close top, and see what if any issues needed to be dealt with, adjust cables etc. have top rolled under as if it were tacked, will give yo an idea where to do the tack.

Mark it with something like chalk, in the middle, start there with tacks, stretching outward as you go keeping in mind, length, can semi check it as you go by closing top some, not all the way!
Once all tacked, close top, if you keep checking your work as you go on, not waiting to the end to try and figure out what you did wrong you will be ok .
Once I had the header welded and painted, tack strips all gathered, if took me about 5 hours doing it totally by my self, I’m sure I left something out, but it was not as bad as I thought it would be.
Good luck measure twice cut once 🤔



Bill H.
67 Impala SS




 
df0rster 
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10-21-19 12:40 PM - Post#2778430    
    In response to Thierry

its fine. I'm normally late also..

I probably need those snaps too as my chrome snap trim is missing a few. But I'm talking about the large screws that hold that rear aluminum tack strip to the well. I found that #14 sheet metal screws fit in but the heads aren't big enough. So I just bought some stainless sheet metal screws with washers. I think that will work. They are not really visible normally.



Edited by df0rster on 10-21-19 12:40 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
df0rster 
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10-21-19 12:47 PM - Post#2778433    
    In response to 59fins

Great info. I've watched several videos, most are mustang tops on Youtube. Not many large frame GM top videos. But the principals are the same.

On my bow, a lot of the tabs were also broken. So I used sheet metal screws to hold the strip on and contact cement. That's how a few of the demos I've seen have done it.

I have installed the new bow pads on the sides and gotten them how I like them. And I've put the new tack strips in everywhere. Next step is to install the well liner I think, and then the rear window. And lastly the top. I'll read over your summary a few more times.

I did order the book from convertible top guys. For $30 It is a pretty sad set of instructions if you ask me. All black and white and blurry pictures. and most of the steps involve measuring my old top (which I don't have). So I had to get measurements from another convertible top website.



 
df0rster 
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10-25-19 11:21 AM - Post#2778745    
    In response to Thierry

  • Thierry Said:
Sorry for the long delay. I'm in the process of being able to post pictures. In the meantime, are you talking about those:

https://www.classicindustries.com/product/1967/che...



Speaking of posting pictures, if you get a chance, could you post a pic of your rear tack strips? I had another thread inquiring about the replacement tack strips having the wrong shape for my 67. they were listed for sale as 67-68 tack strips so I figured there was a slight variation in the 67.

Below a few pics of my progress. I've been going very slow and watching a lot of videos. Probably should have just paid to have it done. but I enjoy the learning process and at least my top was free (well it came with the car).

I've got the pads nice and tight and ready to go. I just tacked the window up and put 4 bolts in the back tack strip to see if I was even close there. I don't have an old top to pattern off of so there's going to be a lot of trial and error.











 


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