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Highlander1 
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09-12-19 03:12 PM - Post#2775405    

Putting 63 BA 4dr Sedan back together after several years of mostly neglect.

This started out as a father - son project after son returned from Iraq - and who has now basically moved on. Pretty much stripped out to include glass and interior. Lots of body work completed to include replacing lower corners of real glass channel (other son is a welder) and rebuilding two of the rear body mounts (all 8 rubber cushions replaced). Have also replaced the PG with 700R4. All this interspersed with two major floods (Matthew 16 and Florence 18 and a close call last week with Dorian) and surgical rebuild of left shoulder (I'm left-handed....). Forgot a lot over this time frame so lots of here and there questions:


1) What was original color of 283/195 hp engine?

2) What was original color of grill support bar?

3) What color was the alternator fan and pulley?

4) Where can I source the sort of thick headed screws (4) for the parking lamp lenses, a single chrome heater control knob, heater control plastic lens?

5) Where can I source inexpensive front bench seat covers for 4 dr sedan? Color/style not an issue as they will be temporary.

6) Does anything need to be installed prior installing new firewall pad/insulation?

7) Presently, engine is 283(+.060) with mild cam, headers and high rise with 750 4V and HEI. Eventually plan to install similar 350 and replace 3.08 differential with posi and 3.55). Fuel line and sending unit (5/16) needs to replace so is there any problem going to 3/8 now in anticipation of 350 engine in future?

8) Also thinking about replacing current 4-1 tube headers with aftermarket cast iron 2.5 ramshorn exhaust manifolds. Thought about doing that now (headers too loud) but have heard/read that too large a header/manifold will hurt low end performance on small displacement engines. Any thoughts on this?

9) Which do you reinstall first, second and third? master cylinder, instrument panel, steering column (this is my guess for the order).

10) Modifying engine harness for HEI. Its my understanding that the resistance wire from the bulkhead connector is removed and replaced with 10g wire that now runs to the HEI 12 v terminal/plug. Also, that a 10g wire must be installed between the inside/ fuse block connector and the ignition 12v terminal. What I am not clear about is if the 10g wire that supplies 12v to the HEI also continues on to the starter "R" terminal? If someone has a schematic that would be great! What color would this wire be?

11) What plugs, wires and gap are correct for HEI in this engine?

12) Anyone had experience including the tach sending wire when modifying engine harness to include an HEI power wire coming off the firewall connector? Note, there is an empty cavity at the 63 firewall connector (also 64 not sure in others) so though it would be neat to do it this way. Looks like you could add a twin lock connector on the fuse block side with a wire to continue on to the tach. What gauge and color would this wire be?

13) Source of small number of twin lock connectors?

14) What GM year make and model dual circuit drum master cylinder should I use to replace single circuit M/C?

15) Is there a distribution block that is similar in external design to the porportioning valve that can be used with the drum/drum master cylinder so that I can go on and do proper front brake lines for future front disk installation?

16) Where to get three wire female connector for AM radio? Rear speaker?

A lot of questions, I realize (and several, I'm sure have been dealt with here before), but thought it best to do it this way rather than 16 separate topics.

Please tackle any or all.

Thanks a lot!


Don

PS Tried to post a few photos but my files (iPhone transferred to my computer) were too large.



 
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dcairns 
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Loc: Orange CA
Reg: 11-07-03
09-12-19 04:41 PM - Post#2775412    
    In response to Highlander1

I have a 64, so my photos may not be exactly as your 63.

1) Chevy Orange, widely available at most auto parts or restoration shops. Shades can vary if you are a stickler for the exact color.



5) try ebay, search for "bench seat cover" there are some universal covers that run $40-$45

6) Carpet, heater box
Perhaps these photos will help jog your memory :






7) probably a good idea to go larger. The 327/300hp had the larger line

8 The 2.5 inch rams horns are pretty efficient. Headers only add a small improvement and fitment/noise headaches.


This is on my 327 (bored/stroked to 383) using stock heads, intake, carb and stock 2.5 inch rams horns. Both the rams horns and headers were open (no mufflers). You can see the headers did not give much advantage at reasonable RPMs. So unless you are racing, or like the cool factor, headers are not worth the bother.










- Dave
1964 Impala 4-door sedan

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Edited by dcairns on 09-12-19 06:41 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
japete92 
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Loc: No. Virginia
Reg: 01-18-13
09-13-19 02:14 PM - Post#2775470    
    In response to Highlander1

In no particular order and based on my experiences with 2, '63 convertibles (one owned in 60's; one owned now since 2013):

2 1/2 horns are fine (unless Vortec heads). One can save some $ by using two of these:

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/rnb-674-504

remove the alt bracket form one (they are ambidextrous) and use it on passenger side. The modified section sits back by number 8 cylinder and can't be detected unless looked for.

This exhaust system fit like a glove on my '63:

https://www.lategreatchevy.com/full-size-chevy-dua...

You will also need a heat riser, or a blank like this:

https://show-cars.com/product/2837

'Ignitionman' (Dave Ray) convinced me to use the small cap electronic distributor and an oil filled separate coil. Search on his many posts on ignition and timing and see his rationale.

I made up my plug wires from:

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-73219/overv ...

ran them under the heads like GM did.

I'm using:

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/atl-3924?cm_mmc ...

gap = 0.040; some like .045 better. No higher.

My engine is a '383' sbc. Dyno'd at 400+ lbs ft of torque from about 2500-4000 rpm (max of 440 at 3800); hp max = 385 at 5200 rpm. It's built for low end torque and reliability. I was 'aiming' at the entry level 409; got a little more.

I have drum brakes all around. Learned to drive on them and find little difference from a drum/disc mix. When GM went to front disc on their full size cars, they switched to 15" wheels (larger rotors). The disc kits that use 14" wheels are sometimes (not sure of all the possibilities) based on Camaro/Chevelle; lighter vehicles. Just some info for your consideration.

Just for jollies, here's pic of my '63 and the passenger side of the engine.

Hope this is helpful.

Pete


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Mel Foye 
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09-13-19 06:21 PM - Post#2775478    
    In response to Highlander1

NOT SCREEMING

4) Where can I source the sort of thick headed screws (4) for the parking lamp lenses ACE HARDWARE OR NUT AND BOLT PLACE OR NPD.

5) Where can I source inexpensive front bench seat covers for 4 dr sedan? AMAZON ONLY HAD FOR TRUCKS SO PEP BOYS.

7) Presently, engine is 283(+.060) with mild cam, headers and high rise with 750 4V and HEI. Eventually plan to install similar 350 and replace 3.08 differential with posi and 3.55). WITH AN OD TRANS, A HIGH RISE, A 750, A 3:08 OR A 3:55 DOESN'T HIT ME AS A GOOD COMBO. TRY THE MATH TO SEE YOUR FINAL RATIO.

8) Also thinking about replacing current 4-1 tube headers with aftermarket cast iron 2.5 ramshorn exhaust manifolds. MY READING OF PEOPLE IN THE KNOW---LIKE A GUY WITH A WHITE COWBOY HAT NAMED SMOKEY---SAY 4-1s ARE FOR OPEN EXHAUST AND HIGH RPMS. IF YOU WANT HEADERS THAN I LIKE TRY Ys BUT I DON'T THINK THE RAMS WILL TRAIL BY MUCH.

9) Which do you reinstall first TO ME UNDER THE DASH IS THE WORST SO I GET IT OUT OF THE WAY. IF NEW WIRING I WOULD WIRE UP THE GAUGES, FEED THE WIRES THROUGH THE FRONT, INSTALL GAUGES THEN HOOK UP TO SENDERS ETC.

13) Source of small number of twin lock connectors? NAPA

14) What GM year make and model dual circuit drum master cylinder should I use to replace single circuit M/C? IF THE CAR HAS BEEN SITING FOR A LONG TIME YOU MAY END UP SPENDING TIME AND $$$$ ON YOUR CURRENT DRUM SETUP AND LATER GOING DOWN PART OF THAT SAME PATH. DAY IN AND OUT I HAVE ALLWAYS BEEN GLAD I WENT TO DISCS.

16) Where to get three wire female connector for AM radio? Rear speaker? NAPA MAY SELL SINGLES.
Looking forward to see your progress. Mel




 
DonSSDD 
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Loc: Nova Scotia, Canada
Reg: 08-21-01
09-15-19 05:46 AM - Post#2775551    
    In response to Mel Foye

I would say a 750 carb is too big for a 283, I would say something in the 450/500 range will work best.

63 Pontiac Parisienne Sport Coupe(CDN Chev mechanically (409, 4 speed),62 Bel Air SC (sold), 59 El Camino (sold), 62 Bel Air SC(sold), 63 SWC Vette (sold),
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del.impala 
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Loc: delaware
Reg: 04-13-11
09-15-19 08:12 AM - Post#2775561    
    In response to DonSSDD

A good rule of thumb too is, x 2 cubic inches and go with the nearest CFM carburetor under that number.



 
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