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Username Post: Tracking / steering issues        (Topic#357520)
bradleyheathhays 
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08-04-19 09:30 PM - Post#2772428    

My '11 Crown Vic has got 315k miles on it and I'm having some kind of tracking problem that I think is coming from the steering. If there's not much wind it drives straight down the road just fine up to about 60 mph. But if the winds up some, or if I take it up to 70, it's tracking characteristics start to get weird and unsettling. Rain seems to cause it to get worse as well. The feeling is not dissimilar to hydroplaning.

I got the wheels off the ground and pushed/pulled on all the tires..3 and 9 o'clock, 6 and 12. Back wheels were solid, and the fronts were ok when I did the 6 and 12, but on the 3 and 9 test the tires moved about 1/4". They didn't move easily say as if they were completely loose, but it didn't take all that much effort to get them rocking either. At each limit of movement there's a low grade thud that's coming from somewhere between the two wheels, pretty close to the center of the car I'd say. I don't know if the movement I'm seeing is normal, but the degree the steering seems to be unpredictable would seem to correlate to about the degree of movement I'm seeing with the 3 and 9 test.

Any ideas on where I go from here?



 




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08-05-19 03:07 AM - Post#2772432    
    In response to bradleyheathhays

ferdtalk

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Mel Foye 
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08-07-19 09:39 PM - Post#2772672    
    In response to bradleyheathhays

Jack stands under both lower control arms so wheels are off the ground. One person doing both up and down and then side to side on the wheel and the second person under the front end looking for play.
Then do the other wheel.



 
Stinky 
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08-09-19 08:51 PM - Post#2772854    
    In response to Mel Foye

I have no idea-r what-so-ever.

But, I'd have somebody follow me down the road...better yet, you follow it down the road and talk to each other on your phones.

The 1st thing that I though was....tires. But, now, not so sure.

Make sure you don't have a bent rim.




Edited by Stinky on 08-09-19 08:54 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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08-10-19 02:43 AM - Post#2772865    
    In response to Stinky

Summary. Ford is recalling certain model year 2005-2011 Ford Crown Victoria (including Crown Victoria Police Interceptors), Mercury Grand Marquis, and Lincoln Town Car vehicles. ...
Remedy. Ford will notify owners and dealers will replace the lower intermediate shaft, free of charge. ...

SHAFT "RIGHT ON" !!!
https://www.1aauto.com/2003-11-ford-lincoln- mercur...


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bradleyheathhays 
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08-13-19 04:08 PM - Post#2773162    
    In response to TAT_2

Thanks for all the good advice and sorry it took so long to get back. Just got the car back from a front end inspection and they're saying my biggest problem is that both lower ball joints need to be replaced. I've done work similar to this before (using a pickle fork to separate joints and using a rented ball joint press) but they were advising it might be too tough of a job to do by myself in my driveway. I have a 1000lb impact wrench but only a really small compressor.

What do you guys think about attempting this job myself? Any advice?



 
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08-13-19 04:25 PM - Post#2773164    
    In response to bradleyheathhays

The first set of ball joints I changed were on my 55 Chevy SW. I had to use a chisel to cut the rivets.

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TAT_2 
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08-14-19 05:46 AM - Post#2773195    
    In response to bradleyheathhays

  • bradleyheathhays Said:


What do you guys think about attempting this job myself? Any advice?



I WOULD DO A SEARCH ON U-TUBE TO GET A IDEA ON WHAT TO DO.
I RECENTLY DID A 4 WHEEL DISK BRAKE JOB ON MY 93 VETTE, I HAD NO PROBLEM DOING THE REARS,THE FRONTS I NEVER SEEN THAT TYPE,SO I DID A SEARCH & THERE WAS A COUPLE VIDS THERE TO WALK ME THRU


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08-14-19 06:19 AM - Post#2773198    
    In response to TAT_2

I agree with TAT_2. YouTube is a great resource. It gives you an idea of what you are getting into and can save a lot of time and trouble.
Personally I would give it a try. I have worked in driveways, parking lots, and nice garages. Its the same job wherever you are at. Also you can't go wrong learning something new.

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08-14-19 06:33 AM - Post#2773201    
    In response to bradleyheathhays

  • bradleyheathhays Said:
I have a 1000lb impact wrench but only a really small compressor.




When I was in my youth I never had an impact wrench or a lot of other tools. Sometimes you just have to get by with what you have or you can borrow tools from some auto parts stores. Number 1 is to WORK SAFELY. Ball joints aren't a big deal but the coil springs in the front end are worthy of your respect.

Max

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bradleyheathhays 
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08-15-19 12:15 AM - Post#2773244    
    In response to Maxbigblock

Well after watching some Utube vids I've decided I'm gonna give it a shot at doing this myself. 'Couple' questions...

- I know the lower BJ presses out, but does the top one press out as well?

- Does the sway bar link have to come off for better access?

- Anything else I should change out while I'm in there? So far I'm gonna be doing both upper and lower BJs and probably the tie rod ends.

- I've been told to use green loc tite. That would be used on the threads on the bottom of the BJs?

- Also been told to watch out for the spring shooting out at me but I believe I have a shock in spring, a strut? Is there any danger of this spring suddenly popping out after tension is eased? I don't plan on removing the spring at all.

- The Moog BJ I'm considering at Rockauto doesn't appear to have a grease boot. Am I looking at this picture wrong? Is that black part a boot that will expand when it's filled up?






 
2plus2 
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08-19-19 05:19 PM - Post#2773603    
    In response to bradleyheathhays

Your springs are part of a coil over assembly so you dont have to worry about that
Both ball joints press in
The swaybar bolts to the knuckle so it will unbolt when you pull the knuckle to get it out of the way
No locktite,the nut is special and doesn't need it


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bradleyheathhays 
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08-21-19 09:06 PM - Post#2773796    
    In response to 2plus2

Thanks for all the good advice 2plus2



 




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