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Username Post: My '39 Master Deluxe Coupe        (Topic#357502)
Keith_Knox 
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02-22-20 10:54 AM - Post#2787051    
    In response to 1971BB427

Looking great.

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Bad56Sedan 
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02-22-20 03:23 PM - Post#2787068    
    In response to 1971BB427

that is totally sickening!
geez what a fine piece of machinery!
very nice, even in primer that thing is kick ssa,
thanks for the pics!

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1971BB427 
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02-22-20 06:20 PM - Post#2787078    
    In response to Bad56Sedan

Thanks guys! Appreciate the feedback!


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
markr1001 
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02-24-20 01:35 PM - Post#2787215    
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very nice! your giving me lots of insperation and hope for my 36 i hope to start soon



 
1971BB427 
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02-25-20 09:59 AM - Post#2787300    
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Thanks! It's been challenging to start with a car where the sides flapped like saloon doors when you shut the doors! But now that the rusty metal is replaced with solid steel it's really all downhill from here!


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
1971BB427 
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02-26-20 04:33 PM - Post#2787401    
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Another gorgeous day here in the great NW! I did the final fitting on my hood, and then painted the inside gloss black. I adjusted my front hood pins to match the bracket I mounted inside the hood and locked them in. I added a flat bar to the back side of the top grille plate, just to ensure it was very solid, and strong.



Also added a double plate to the bracket inside, as it's narrow and I wanted it to be thicker.



Did a weld on each end of the double plate, and a few tacks on the edge. That should make it plenty strong.
Once I got the hood and pin setup done I bent up brackets to mount the electric fan. It came with those cheap wire ties that you push through your radiator, and I've had issues with those breaking, or damaging the core. So I prefer mounting it slightly off the radiator and hooked to metal near the radiator. The grille mounting bolts were a good spot to attach brackets, and keep them short.

I also sanded the exhaust pipes between the header collector, and the cutouts, and then shot this part satin black VHT. The pipes are kinda out there, and they detract from the look, so I think the satin black makes them blend in better.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
1971BB427 
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02-29-20 06:22 PM - Post#2787633    
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Temp dropped like a rock today! About 15 degrees colder than yesterday, but I spent the day on the car anyway. I reworked the holes slightly for the hood pins, and then installed the stainless scuff plates on the hood.
After that I measured up where to penetrate the floor and routed all my front wiring. Once it was routed I began the tedious chore of wrapping, and securing it. Added grommets and black plastic covering where it could see any harm, and tied it all up in place. Didn't get to actually hooking any of it up as it just took so long to route and dress it down.
I cut down the 12"x 12"x 1.75" 90 degree lower hose and installed it on the radiator. Put the thermostat housing on and discovered the upper hose is the wrong diameter. The bozos gave me another 1.75" instead of the 1.5" I needed. So just stopped there, and quit for the day.
I also discovered my wiring harness uses a 80a. fusible link that's a plug in type, but they didn't supply the link. So need to pick one of those up also. Have to spring for a battery soon also as I need to test everything I've wired before long.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
1971BB427 
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03-05-20 05:21 PM - Post#2788006    
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Hooray! It is semi alive today! Went and got a battery for it today, and was going to just put it in the battery box in the trunk and hook it up. But then I thought why not try to see what might work? So I pulled the headlight switch and got park and headlights. Hit the left/right turn signals and left worked in front, but not right. In the back nothing worked! No lights, turn signals, etc. I figured it was cheap censored LED lights that came with it, so I tried hooking my test light to the neg. on the battery and all wires checked good. Looked a little further and realized I'd never finished landing the grounds at the taillights! DUH! High and low beams worked well, and actually got them correct side to side!
 But still no right turn signal front or rear. Got to the column plug and began checking and found the new connector that came with the kit was crap. Luckily I had a good factory connector I'd cut off the truck I took the column out of. So I cut the other connector off and spliced all the wires one at a time. Plugged it back in and got lights working everywhere! Man those LED headlights, and taillights are freaking bright! I'm still waiting delivery on a 3rd eye brake light to mount on the license plate frame also. Should really see the car when I touch the brakes!
 Bumped the starter, just to see if it hit and it did. No oil, and no ignition wiring to the electronic distributor, so can't run it yet. But at least it bumps when I am ready to hit it.
 My custom stainless steel upper radiator hose got here today, so I can install that, and fill it with coolant. Then I've still got that ignition to do, plus various switches for overriding the electric fan, dome light, and a few other items. Need to build a switch plate for under the dash first, and then I can wire them all up.
 Might just possibly be able to fire it up in a few days. I need to pull the distributor first, as I'd prefer to prime the oil system just before firing it. It's sat dry a long time, so it wont be good to fire it without a prime first.
 Once it can start up and run I can pull it out of the shop when I begin sanding and doing bodywork. I hope that saves all the mess of sanding dust inside the shop if I can do most of it outside on nice days. At least I can back it out to blow off the car, and the shop occasionally if it runs.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
Keith_Knox 
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03-05-20 10:21 PM - Post#2788022    
    In response to 1971BB427

Outstanding work. How many cars have you built?

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1971BB427 
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03-06-20 09:28 PM - Post#2788100    
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For myself probably well over two dozen. And about 6 or 7 for friends. But I'm closing in on 70 now, and this will be my last full ground up build.

Did a list, and I exaggerated on my own cars. It's been 22, not over two dozen.



1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


Edited by 1971BB427 on 03-07-20 06:42 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
1971BB427 
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03-07-20 06:42 PM - Post#2788162    
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Spent some quality time just cleaning up the shop today. I knew it was time when I couldn't find the new window crank knobs and escutcheons I bought recently. Of course once I cleaned the whole shop I still couldn't find them. I was sure I'd put them in the same cardboard box as the door and window hardware, but not there. Then I decided to assemble the taillight lenses, but the gaskets were in the same bag as the door hardware. Opened the trunk to get the lenses and there was the bag with the missing parts! So I got the lenses both assembled and installed. One housing had the 8-32 hole stripped out, so opened it up to 10-32 and tapped it oversized. Worked great after opening the chrome trim slightly also.
Now if I can just find that darn hood ornament, and the suction cups I use for holding window glass! They seem to be taking their turn at hiding!


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
1971BB427 
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03-08-20 02:45 PM - Post#2788230    
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Frustrating day today. I poured the engine full of oil, and primed it. Then dropped the distributor in with new wiring completed. Couldn't locate a distributor hold down, so I ran to 3 parts stores that all showed they had them online, but none in any storesh. Finally got out some 1/4" plate and my die grinder and had to build one.
Then I figured I'd put the 4th gear lockup solenoid kit in my 700r4 and wire it up, so if I started the car I'd have trans fluid in too. But the kit made no sense on the wiring? It shows no electrical connection to the external 4 pin plug on the trans, and a normally open switch wired into the system that isn't in the kit? So I went to Superior Transmission's web site to look up my KO13 kit, but no help there. Shows the same kit without any N.O. switch either? So had to send off a question to their tech line, and wit for an answer back before I can attempt to fire the car off.
Bought 3 gallons of trans fluid as it's likely dry, and not sure what it takes. I see everything from 6 qts. with the converter to 11 qts. with the converter, so playing it safe to have plenty if I need it. I'll pour in 1.5 gallons first, and then add until it reads full in neutral running.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
1971BB427 
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03-09-20 08:28 AM - Post#2788272    
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A friend pointed me to this web site with some great info on the 700r4 transmissions.

http://purplesagetradingp ost.com/sumner/techinfo/7...

I was able to look there and see the 4th gear lockup solenoid is connected to terminals A and B on the connector. So all I need to do is hook power to the pressure switch, and then hook to either A or B, and to ground from there. Should be very easy.
 But first I'm going to remove the old radio faceplate I covered with wood grain vinyl. I'll build a new one from sheet metal that I can mount my trans switch, exhaust cutout switches, and whatever other switches I need in that. Then cover it with more wood grain vinyl and reinstall. 
 Waiting on a throttle cable, but I can still fire it up using my remote starter switch and operating the carb by hand outside.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
Keith_Knox 
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03-09-20 08:59 AM - Post#2788274    
    In response to 1971BB427

Good luck with the first start.

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1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup, stock. Purchased 11/18/17.
2019 Ford Ranger Lariat Super Crew


 
1971BB427 
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03-09-20 09:19 AM - Post#2788276    
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  • Keith_Knox Said:
Good luck with the first start.



Thanks! No matter how many cars I build, or how well I prepare, first starts always make me nervous until they're done.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
1971BB427 
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03-11-20 03:33 PM - Post#2788450    
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Did the test on the 700r4 solenoid and it worked out well. I could hear the internal solenoid clicking in when I jumpered the pressure switch, so all is well.
Wired up all my 5 toggle switches too, and mounted them in the blank off plate. Installed the base for the dome light, and got it working also. Poured 5 gallons of gas into the tank and hooked up my remote start to see if I could fire the engine. At first it seemed to not have any spark, but then it caught and tried to run. I tried it numerous times and it catches, and tries to run, but never kept running. Checked the coil and ignition switches, but everything checks out good. I did find a couple vacuum ports open, which shouldn't cause it not to start, but plugged them anyway.
Before I could try it again I noticed the sight glasses for both bowls were leaking like a sieve, and I had to put rags under them to catch the fuel. So now I ordered sight glass repair kits and will install new glass, O rings, and clips before I can try another start up. So close, but not today!


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


Edited by 1971BB427 on 03-11-20 03:34 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
1971BB427 
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03-12-20 11:57 AM - Post#2788504    
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Last night I did some snooping around the internet for options. Not particularly fond of the 700 Demon carb I have since someone removed the choke plate and all the linkage to it. I ran across a deal on a Quick Fuel 650 double pumper with electric choke for under $250 brand new, and free shipping. So I ordered the Quick Fuel carb, and will swap it on the coupe when it arrives.
I'll still get the sight glass kit, and install it on the Demon, and then I can resell it for a small price and not feel like I'm selling a leaker to some innocent party.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
1971BB427 
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03-17-20 03:44 PM - Post#2788863    
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While I'm waiting on the new carb, and we're self quarantining, I figured I'd tie up loose ends. I got little bits and pieces over the weekend, so began assembling some things.
Installed the throttle cable, and cut it to length for housing. Wait to trim the inner cable after the carb is here. Installed the pedal assembly, and repaired the broken end on the cable arm. Someone broke it off, so I cut a piece of 1/8" stock and drilled and bolted it to the arm to make it back to the correct length.
I also got the sight glass repair kit for the old Demon, and installed those parts. Will stick it on Craigslist and hope to get my money back on it.
 I keep an old fan belt here to measure with that is cut at one end. I wrapped it around the pulleys, and then measure the length of how short it is, or how much too long it is. Then take the measurement to the parts store and get a belt. This engine needed a 55" for the alternator/water pump, so got that taken care of too.
I had a nice polished stainless catch can-recovery tank, so built brackets and plumbed it into the radiator. Filled it with coolant and it's ready to go.
Carb is scheduled to arrive tomorrow, and if it gets here early enough I may try round 2 of starting the engine. Weather is gorgeous here today at low 60's and supposed to be similar all week. Was actually nice enough to leave the doors open on the shop wile I worked on the coupe today!


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
1971BB427 
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03-18-20 04:10 PM - Post#2788944    
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It arrived too late to install today, but tomorrow for sure! The new Quick Fuel 650 DP carb! I like the two tone look Quick Fuel does.






1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
1971BB427 
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03-19-20 06:37 PM - Post#2789014    
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I got the '39 fired up today, and it ran pretty well for no tune at all. Loaded it up on Youtube so I can post a link at the end of this reply.

All went well, but it did get pretty warm running inside the shop until I turned the fan on. Then it ran around 180 degrees. I'm sure when it's outside it will run cool regardless.
Had an issue with that nifty stainless steel upper radiator hose though. It leaked after I shut the engine off, and wouldn't stop no matter how much I tightened the clamps. I pulled it off and thought I'd just run the open hose with the SS hose, but that's when I saw the clamps had actually dug into the splice hose at each end and split it! The cheap hose had no cloth reinforcement inside, and was more of a soft pure rubber than regular radiator hose is. I went over to the parts store and bought a 1.5" radiator hose that had enough straight section to cut off two 5" straights. Slid them on and tightened the heck out of them. They held beautifully and work like radiator hose is supposed to work.
I stuck a timing light on the engine and it was only off about 2 degrees after timing it by ear. Still need to final adjust lifter lash, and tweak the carb. Also need to get a carb return spring as the idle kept fluctuating if I didn't press the linkage closed a little by hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqoLl_SjjaA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNH7CP9xd-M


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1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
Keith_Knox 
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03-19-20 09:17 PM - Post#2789025    
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Sound good.

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1971BB427 
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03-20-20 07:56 AM - Post#2789044    
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  • Keith_Knox Said:
Sound good.



Thanks Keith! I'll get the final tune done, and see if it changes any.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
1971BB427 
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03-20-20 05:28 PM - Post#2789073    
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A friend dropped by this morning to hear the engine. I stepped on the pedal to set the choke and touched the key. She fired right off like it had fuel injection, and knew what to do!
Blipped the throttle after a few minutes, and it idled right down and ran perfectly. Set up the timing light and it was 2 degrees off what I like, so I gave it a bump and locked it down. I adjusted the carb idle air screws, which were nearly closed from the factory! None of the 4 corner screws were much over 1/4 turn open. They seemed to run best a full turn open, or close to it, so left them there.
I got the bucket seats out, and after doing a major tool cleanup inside I mounted them back in the car. They'll need to come out again before carpet, but need them to drive the car in or out while doing the bodywork.
While I was bolting the seats down I noticed trans fluid on the floor. Looked where it came from and the trans cooler is cracked. It was brand new, but given to me by a friend who went 4 speed and didn't need it. So ordered a new Hayden trans cooler and have to wait a few days until it arrives to top off the trans and move the car.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
Keith_Knox 
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03-20-20 08:12 PM - Post#2789087    
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Glad everything is working out with your engine.
We sold Hayden coolers for the Allison transmissions we sold, when I worked for a Detroit Diesel Allison distributorship in Berkeley CA.
Only worked there as a journeyman partsman for 38 1/2 years.

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1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup, stock. Purchased 11/18/17.
2019 Ford Ranger Lariat Super Crew


 
1971BB427 
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03-21-20 07:09 AM - Post#2789110    
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  • Keith_Knox Said:
Glad everything is working out with your engine.
We sold Hayden coolers for the Allison transmissions we sold, when I worked for a Detroit Diesel Allison distributorship in Berkeley CA.
Only worked there as a journeyman partsman for 38 1/2 years.



ONLY 38 1/2 years? That's a long time at one place, and very fortunate to have been able to stay at one place that long!
I moved about every 7 years for the first half of my career as an electrician. Then in the late 80's went to work for a local contractor and stayed there for 23 years to retirement.

I wanted to start building the divider wall, and platform behind the front seats now, but local restrictions due to corona virus told us to stay home except for food and gas, and no unnecessary trips. So can't go buy the materials to start the work. So now I'm stalled waiting on the cooler, but can't switch to interior work. Guess I'll just think about ways to do things, and hope they allow us to do more soon!


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
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03-21-20 03:45 PM - Post#2789162    
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We had another perfect weather day here, so I chanced going to Home Depot and bought a sheet of finished, sanded plywood. I just couldn't sit and twiddle my thumbs knowing in a week everything might be shut down!
So started out measuring up the back seat trunk divider, and cut up a filler. The opening is wider than 4', so had to add a filler piece to each side to get it all closed.



Then I made another for the base and it sits right on the tunnel. I added braces underneath on each end, and a filler along each side in front. Then bent up some really thin metal to tie the base to the back panel. Like the back panel the base needed fillers on each end also, but the support underneath I made wide enough to screw the pieces to the same support and make it stronger and easier.



After that was done I planned on building out the hinged cover to go over the fuel tank filler and cover vent and wiring. But after looking at having to make it narrower than the trunk lid opening to hinge and raise it, plus cutout for battery, and side bracing, I realized there wouldn't be much left of a cover! I decided to make a cover that was boxed in off the existing divider in the trunk, and not hinge it. The divider is 5" tall so I built a box the same height and screwed it to the lip of that divider. So it leaves the battery and gas filler accessible and doesn't require me to lift a panel to fill gas. It left a recess in front, which might be a good place for a space saver spare if I ever took a long trip and wanted to toss in a spare tire and jack.







At some point I'll be covering all this with black carpet right up to the package shelf. Probably do the shelf in vinyl to match door panels.


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1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
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03-22-20 05:20 PM - Post#2789270    
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Last of the warm weather from what I see in the forecast, so I did some painting today. Wanted to paint the divider and cover box in the car. Hoping paint will allow the carpet to stick even better. And of course paint in the trunk is just to make everything black.






1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 
1971BB427 
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03-28-20 05:36 PM - Post#2789674    
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The Hayden replacement trans cooler came in recently, so tore out the old cooler and fabricated new mounts for the Hayden cooler. Started it up, and no more leaks!
I'm glad I got 3 gallons of trans fluid because it too all but one quart to fill the 700R4 trans. Once I got it warmed up and full I tested the gears, and it seemed to work fine. Still need to get it out when the rain stops and adjust the TVR cable to set shift points.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1937 Austin gasser 327/TH350


 


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