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Username Post: My '39 Master Deluxe Coupe        (Topic#357502)
1971BB427 
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08-03-19 01:19 PM - Post#2772319    

Picked up this '39 Coupe at our big April swap meet. It was dirt cheap because of all the rust in the floors, rockers, lower doors, and body. But I figured it was time to learn how to do this before I'm too old! I had a '40 Chevy coupe in high school in 1968, and always regretted selling it, which also played big in buying the '39.
There was a great number of extra parts inside the car, so I figured I'd sell the extras to also help offset the purchase, and end up almost at zero cost if it went well! So I did an inventory prior to moving it into my tiny one car shop.





This was the '40 Coupe I had in high school. My friend has owned it ever since, and totally restored and street rodded it.



I got some friends to assist in steering it, and used my quad to pull it into the shop. Then we pushed it the final bit by hand.
After that I began really looking over the rust repairs and got that sinking feeling! The car was perfect from 3" up, and the frame was also perfect. But a lot of rust everywhere low! I began ordering parts for the floors, inner and outer doors, 1/4 panels, etc. I sold all the spare parts, or traded them for old parts I was missing like a couple garnish moldings, and a glove box door. Also got store credit from a local place for some fiberglass spares, and used that to buy more sheet metal parts.
I began the daunting task of repairing all the rusted metal. A lot of this I've never done, so I got some advice on how to do it from people I know with lots of experience! I began by removing the rusted rockers, and replacing those. The lower body shook whenever I closed the doors from no rockers!







Fortunately the floor braces behind the rockers were great, which made installing new rockers easier! I bent up a few pieces myself to save money, and made up these little U shaped edges to go over the rocker's sharp edge.







1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1946 Austin gasser 327/TH350

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Edited by 1971BB427 on 08-03-19 01:50 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 


1971BB427 
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08-03-19 01:44 PM - Post#2772323    
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I went for the 1/4 panels next, as they were less scary than lower doors! I again saved some money by using generic lower door patch panels and simply cutting them to length and patching them in as 1/4 panel drops.





They were a bit flat, but some massaging got the proper curve to fit the body lines.



The floor kit came for the front and rear. Fronts were great, but rear was almost worthless! The box said, "37-38, 39 with some re-shaping". Well by the time I removed enough metal to fit my '39, I could have just made my own from a sheet of 18 ga. steel. The fronts made that job super easy though!



The door drops came, so decided to tackle those. They were very challenging, and for an amateur like me will require some filler! I used All Metal to ensure a good bond, and solid patch.







Suprisingly the front floors weren't as bad as I thought! Both toe boards were good, but the driver's had holes for brake, clutch, steering column, and other stuff, so I replaced it just to start clean!



Passenger side just got the floor.



Both sides will need a small edge piece fitted as the front and rear floors don't cover that much.

I found more good braces under the rear, so plug welded to them, and then tacked the edges where they met solid floor. I overlapped the tiny tunnel since it will get cut out and replaced with a new driveline tunnel I built.



With the floors just tacked at the edge, I overlaid my new driveline tunnel, and marked the old tunnel/floor to cut it back out. Then welded in the new tunnel for the back seat area.



I'll wait to do the front after the engine and trans are in, and I know what it needs for clearance for the 700R4 tranny, and 350 roller motor.

Big pile of rusty metal removed during the process!



Maybe getting a bit ahead of myself. But I got a great deal on these new old style Torq Thrust TTO's, so I got tires and wheels mounted up for the coupe project!



I'll be pulling out the old knee action A arms, and installing a '59 Chevy pickup I beam axle in front. Doing a disc brake conversion on the axle also. The rear will be an 8.8" Ford limited slip posi with a 3.73 gear ratio. Steering will be a Vega box and a late 70's Blazer tilt column.

I picked up three grille halves. All had issues, but fixable. I cut bars from the extra half and tig welded them into the lower missing bars of the two salvageable grilles. They'll get painted, and then original trim used down the middle, and around the edges.












So this is where I am after a couple months of dinking around here and there. I hope to possibly be driving the '39 next summer, and maybe painting next winter. But that's just a dream right now!


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1946 Austin gasser 327/TH350

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/marlinguy /D...
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF3 906.JP...


Edited by 1971BB427 on 08-03-19 01:55 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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08-03-19 08:53 PM - Post#2772352    
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Good job.

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08-04-19 08:09 AM - Post#2772375    
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Thanks so much for posting. Please keep the updates coming when you can.

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1971BB427 
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08-04-19 06:31 PM - Post#2772418    
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Thanks guys! I'll try to post as I go. I'm retired, but busy building a '35 Plymouth coupe for a friend at his house, so I only get a couple days a week to work on mine. Of course other days get sidetracked doing work around the house.

Appreciate the feedback.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1946 Austin gasser 327/TH350

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/marlinguy /D...
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF3 906.JP...


 
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08-05-19 03:37 AM - Post#2772435    
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Can't wait to see the next update.



 
1971BB427 
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08-05-19 04:53 PM - Post#2772476    
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Spent some time looking over the tail panel and tool drop below the trunk lid today. It's a bigger mess than I thought, and I decided it might be worthwhile to buy a replacement instead. I checked a couple places and found them for around $325 and up. Then by chance I checked the local CL ads and found a new old stock EMS panel for $200 brand new!
Can't believe the luck, and it will save me a lot of time, plus look better than whatever I scabbed together.




1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1946 Austin gasser 327/TH350

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/marlinguy /D...
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF3 906.JP...


 
1971BB427 
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08-07-19 01:14 PM - Post#2772636    
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Not sure what I was thinking, (or hoping) when I thought this tail panel might be salvageable? But it's obvious I was high on something when I thought it could be!







Got it cut out rough, so still more metal to remove once I get the fenders off and fit the new panel to it. Some rust in the trunk drop, but it should be pretty easy to replace once the new tail panel is in and I know how much is missing between the two panels.





Have to decide if I cut the notches for a bumper bracket, or leave the tail smooth. Since it's a hotrod, I may not run a rear bumper. I can do those later if I do.

The new panel goes up to those black felt marker lines, and I cut about 3" below to give me room for final trimming and welding. I'll have to brace the lip on the trunk lid opening while I'm fitting the new tail panel. It's allowing the trunk lid to sag now, and it sits lower than the adjacent fenders and surrounding edge. So I'll tack in some braces to hold it, and then fit the new tail panel.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1946 Austin gasser 327/TH350

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/marlinguy /D...
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1971BB427 
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08-09-19 01:18 PM - Post#2772823    
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I got the metal cut back today, and the new tail pan installed. It wasn't as far off as I thought once I got everything opened up, and got it clamped in place. I lowered the trunk lid and it fit fine into the tail pan. So I tacked it in and checked the fit again, and all was good. Got it welded in and tried the trunk lid once more, and it's good to go!
I spot welded the edge along the weatherstrip rail, and did a continuous weld along the junction with the trunk drops on each side.






Smoothed them out with a flapper disc, and looks like I might need a couple more tacks where it appears I missed the edge. Then they're ready for a dab of filler.





Still need to build the bottom of the tool drop, and tack it in, but it wont take much. I actually think I can see the end of rust repair soon! Maybe even in a couple more days!

The machine shop called and said my heads will be ready to pick up Sat. afternoon, or Monday!!!


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1946 Austin gasser 327/TH350

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/marlinguy /D...
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF3 906.JP...


Edited by 1971BB427 on 08-09-19 01:19 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
1971BB427 
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08-10-19 03:12 PM - Post#2772898    
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Got out again today and installed a new "floor" in my trunk tool drop. I made it different than the original, so it's shallower. The metal was a bit rotted, so I figured why waste time and metal building it all back the same way, when I could simply cut the sides shorter to get to solid metal, and weld in a new bottom.
I cut a piece of cardboard to fit in the bottom, and then traced it on my 18 ga. sheet metal. Cut it out and dropped it in the bottom, and it fit first time! Tacked it in place, and ground it smooth from the bottom side where I could get to it. Began knocking the tops off my spot welds for the floors with the old flapper discs. I'll leave them as is until I get the engine set, and know what they need to complete them. Then I'll seam seal it all inside and out when it's done.
Spread a little All Metal filler on the new tail pan, and the bottom of the tool drop. Too pooped for pictures, so I'll get out tomorrow to continue work, and take some then.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1946 Austin gasser 327/TH350

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/marlinguy /D...
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF3 906.JP...


 
1971BB427 
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08-11-19 01:37 PM - Post#2772971    
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More again today, but took the camera with me!
Here's the freshly sanded, but unfinished tail panel. Still needs a light coat of filler to be really done.





And the new tool drop that came out better than I hoped! Might hold a couple wrenches.



And the freshly ground floors.



I cut off the brackets for the Z bar, and the brake master. Then after that I decided I'd begin unbolting the front suspension assembly. Chevy really wanted that front suspension to stay put in the car! They used 26 bolts to hold it to the frame rails! I removed 22 of them, but need to weld in a new tubular crossmember in front before I take any more out. Nothing else keeps the rails aligned, so it needs a tube across to keep the rails parallel.



I realized when looking at the frame rails, and the way Chevy bolted in the front suspension, that I should use the same method! I can make up my spring hangers for the front and rear of the straight axle, and then drill the mounting plates to make them bolt onto the frame rails! This way I wont need to do any overhead welding, and I can come up with some really nice mounts that I will just drill the frame edges and bolt in place! Sure will save me a lot of painful overhead welding! And I can do the same for the transmission crossmember too!

One thing really amazed me! Considering all the body rust, this frame looks like new!! It appears that it might even be from another car since it's so perfect! I removed all those bolts, and not a single broken or rusted bolt! I also broke loose all the brake lines, and they look fantastic! And even the rubber in the brake hoses, and swaybar were in great shape!


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1946 Austin gasser 327/TH350

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/marlinguy /D...
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF3 906.JP...


Edited by 1971BB427 on 08-11-19 01:40 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
1971BB427 
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08-12-19 01:52 PM - Post#2773052    
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Errand day today. Went to the steel yard and bought a 20' stick of 2"x2" box tubing for crossmembers, motor mounts, transmission mount, and whatever else I need it for.
Then my neighbor called from out at the Pick N Pull and told me they got a truck in with a canopy on it. I've been looking for hardware for my trunk lid to make a latch, and old canopies have spring loaded latches on them. So I ran over and pulled the latch and handle off the canopy.
While I was there I also removed the sealed beam headlamp buckets as I need them to convert mine to sealed beams. I grabbed the trim rings, and even the connectors for the lamps just in case I need it all.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1946 Austin gasser 327/TH350

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/marlinguy /D...
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1971BB427 
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08-14-19 11:14 AM - Post#2773220    
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Just picked them up from the machine shop! Boy I sure love new parts!



These 487x heads will be going on my 355 SBC roller motor. Using a Howards cam with 525/530 lift, 280/288 duration, 109 LSA. The 355 is 9.25:1 compression with these 76cc heads so it wont have any issues running on pump gas.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1946 Austin gasser 327/TH350

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/marlinguy /D...
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1971BB427 
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08-17-19 06:22 PM - Post#2773429    
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Weather is cloudy and cool, so stayed home from any car shows and worked on the '39. I decided it might be time to check out my engine, and see if it was as advertised by the seller. I pulled a couple rod caps to inspect the bearings, and plastigauge them. They were as advertised, and brand new bearings. No issues with crank, and plastigauge showed it's all done correctly. Did the same with a couple mains also. Didn't see any reason to do all of them, unless I found something suspicious.
Put it all back together, and torqued them down to spec. Once done, I put it on my engine stand so I can pull the balancer and timing cover to install the Howards cam, and gear drive. I hope my old chrome cover from my 327 fits the 350, but if not I'll just paint the cover.
Need to order a new oil pump as I have no idea what this oil pump is, or how old? It doesn't appear to be new, and may be fine, but I wont chance it. Have to check the pickup to see if it will be correct for my finned aluminum oil pan too. Not sure if the factory windage tray on the mains will clear my pan either. If not, I'll trim it until it clears as I like having it there.

I also stripped all the brakes and tie rod off the straight axle. Going to lay out the holes I want to drill, and get them done. Then I'll clean it up and put new paint on it. Also want to go to Oregon Spring and have new U bolts made. Don't want to start out with the old rusty used ones. Hopefully I"ll get the holes and the clean up done tomorrow so I can begin mocking up the axle.
I realized today I somehow measured way off on spring width, vs. frame width? Not sure how I did it, but I did. The frame is quite a bit narrower than the spring perches on the donor axle. So I will need to make up spring mounts that situate the springs outside the frame rails after all. Not a big deal, but more work to do to get the mounts built. I wont be bolting them to the frame rails after all. With the outside mounting points it wont save me anything, so I'll build the mounts and weld them on the frame rails.



1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1946 Austin gasser 327/TH350

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/marlinguy /D...
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF3 906.JP...


 
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08-18-19 09:54 AM - Post#2773482    
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Nice work.
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1971BB427 
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08-18-19 08:54 PM - Post#2773525    
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Thanks! Had a little setback today!

The engine is far from ready. Needs the cam and gear drive installed. Just test fitting the aluminum pan. Going to leave it there, and upside down until I get the heads and cam done.



I laid out the holes and drilled the axle today. Then I opened up the disc brake kit from Speedway to install it. That's when I realized I somehow entered the wrong numbers and got a kit for a '49-'54 Chevy car! Crap! Have to call Speedway tomorrow and arrange to exchange this kit for the correct Chevy truck disc brake kit. I hate when I do stuff like this!!!!






1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1946 Austin gasser 327/TH350

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/marlinguy /D...
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF3 906.JP...


 
1971BB427 
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08-21-19 12:43 PM - Post#2773767    
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Speedway told me no problem returning the disc brake kit, even though it's been over 60 days, so sent it back. They're sending the correct '47-'59 Chevy truck kit once they get the seals in that they're waiting for.

Made a short work day of it today. I got a deal on some 4 ft. LED two tube shop lights to replace my fluorescents, so spent a couple hours changing those out to give me more work light. Boy do they ever make a huge improvement! And no issues with cold weather flickering, or replacing lamps in my lifetime! Supposed to be a 40 year lifespan on the LED's.

After that I disassembled the timing cover, and removed the roller lifters. Then dropped the Howards roller camshaft in, and reassembled it. Their instructions say the roller cam needs no assembly lube, but I put it on anyway. Just seems like a good idea to me. Especially if it might not be started for quite awhile.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1946 Austin gasser 327/TH350

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/marlinguy /D...
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF3 906.JP...


 
1971BB427 
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08-22-19 07:13 PM - Post#2773840    
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I'm building this one for my neighbor one day a week. It's a '35 Plymouth coupe, with 383 SBC engine, 4 speed, and 8.8 Ford rear axle. 4.56 gear and posi. Four wheel disc brakes. 12" Firestone pie crust slicks, and a dropped chrome tube axle. Coil over shocks all around. Front tires are just rollers, and will be replaced by skinny Cragars, and skinny tires.
We just got the body back on the chassis after doing all the frame, suspension, and drivetrain. It will be getting rear fenders, but the rest will stay open.



This coupe was hit hard in the rear, and we've replaced and pulled a lot of metal. It's still going to need 1/8" to 1/4" of filler to make the rear look perfect. Just too rough to ever get it 100% with our bodyworking skills.



The rest the week is dedicated to my build.


1969 Suburban 2wd 350
1939 Chevy passenger coupe
1946 Austin gasser 327/TH350

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/marlinguy /D...
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSCF3 906.JP...


Edited by 1971BB427 on 08-22-19 07:18 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 


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