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Username Post: Contemplating mini-tubbing a '63 Biscayne Wagon...        (Topic#357464)
BowtieGent 
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07-31-19 08:21 AM - Post#2772087    

Hey All, Posting for a friend.

As the header states, Has anyone mini-tubbed these wagons before, and if so, any advice or photos of the modification?

Thanks.

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BowtieGent 
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08-09-19 08:34 AM - Post#2772799    
    In response to BowtieGent

Nothing?

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junky 
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08-09-19 09:17 AM - Post#2772804    
    In response to BowtieGent

I haven't a clue as to what you are referring to. Must be a generational gap in the English language..... unless you are referring to cutting out the wheel wells to install larger tires? If so all you need is the guts to do it right, or ruin your car. This type of surgery isn't for the faint of heart, but for serious people that understand body building (not the human body building)and can do it well. Most of those that did these type of mods were the drag racers of the 1960's.

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BowtieGent 
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08-14-19 01:18 PM - Post#2773224    
    In response to junky

  • junky Said:
I haven't a clue as to what you are referring to. Must be a generational gap in the English language..... unless you are referring to cutting out the wheel wells to install larger tires?

Mini-Tub, as opposed to Full-Tub for full on racing tires.

If so all you need is the guts to do it right, or ruin your car. This type of surgery isn't for the faint of heart, but for serious people that understand body building (not the human body building)and can do it well. Most of those that did these type of mods were the drag racers of the 1960's.



So, What you're saying is that unless building a drag car, No-one has put in the time and effort to "mini-tub" (widen the rear wheelwells...for the generation gap) a wagon just to allow for wider tires...?


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gofastwclass 
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08-14-19 08:46 PM - Post#2773240    
    In response to BowtieGent

I don't believe Junky is saying no one has done it. He is simply saying most do wheel tubs with the eye toward drag racing.

As a person who understands mini tubs and their benefits, can it be done - yes. However a wagon is a bit of a different beast than a regular car or truck because ideally the interior would need to fit and work like factory once the task had been completed.

Keeping things working and looking like it was a factory job (the point of mini tubs in my eyes) would take a LOT of planning, time, attention to detail, metal working experience and an eye for proportions to pull off. Get it wrong and the car ceases to appear (or function like) factory. Removing the rear seat or making a seat that didn't fold down would remove a lot of complexity but it's still a big process from scratch (no suitable kits I'm aware of).

Example: the wagon I worked on a few years ago had the folding rear seat and floor. We talked about mini tubs on that car but when we went over all the necessary things required to keep his interior functioning like stock he changed his mind.

In short you are going to need to think about modifying four major components of the car plus any ancillary items:
1. body (and mounts)
2. frame (and mounts)
3. axle housing
4. interior (highly visible rear seating area and panels)

The first three aren't too bad for an experienced fabricator but number four will be the difference between just looking OK and the finished car appearing unmodified.

Finally, depending on the wheel diameter, offset, ride height and axle width you can fit and drive on a 10" wide wheel in an otherwise stock wagon body. Now the question becomes how wide does your friend really want to go?

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