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Username Post: Semi-Fluid Grease for Steering Gearbox        (Topic#357407)
drdoug 
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07-28-19 06:41 AM - Post#2771789    

Chevron Delo EP NLGI 00 Semi-Fluid Grease for vintage steering gearboxes.
$24 per 1.875 pound container (approximately 1 quart), plus shipping, or
$13 per standard 14 oz. cartridge, plus shipping.

This is a superior, synthetic semi-fluid (self-leveling) grease for all vintage steering gear applications. Its specs exceed that of the commonly used Champion “00” and Penrite Semi-Fluid Steering Gear Fluid from Australia (which surprisingly at manufacturer stated 18 pounds, doesn’t meet EP minimum standard of 40 pounds for Timken OK Load test, per ASTM D 2509). The base oil viscosity is equivalent to 90 weight gear oil, which was the original spec for many GM steering gearboxes. It will flow better than the commonly used John Deere “Cornhead” grease, which is NLGI 0 rated. It should not leak as does 90 weight gear oil from vintage steering gearboxes in normal condition and operation.

Since it is available from Chevron in a minimum 35 pound (5 gallon) pail, this is excess material well over and above my needs, recently acquired and repackaged in my shop in fluorinated HDPE quart containers which are suitable for long-term storage of oil and grease products. Based on several requests, I have also repackaged some of the grease in in standard 14 oz grease cartridges as well as the quart bottles. The cartridge tubes are brand new, metal seal on one end and plastic cap on the other. They are HPDE lined for safe long-term storage of grease. Each container is sealed and labeled with the Chevron Smart-fill labeling system code for Delo EP 00 grease. Limited supply.

A copy of the Chevron Product Data Sheet (PDS) and MSDS will be included in the shipment. Send a PM for more details!


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Chevron Smartfill Label


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Chevron Delo EP 00 Specs


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Repackaged Delo EP 00 Grease




 




Ray P W 
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08-01-19 08:54 AM - Post#2772170    
    In response to drdoug

Good morning Doug.

How does the viscosity of your 00 grease compare to Corn Head Grease?

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When I restored my 1936 Chevy pickup, that I still have, in the early 1970s I machined the sector housing for a very narrow oil seal so I could use gear lube in the steering box and also replaced the bronze bushings. That's worked out fine but if I'd known about "pourable" grease I could have tried that instead.

Ray W



 
drdoug 
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08-02-19 08:05 AM - Post#2772235    
    In response to Ray P W

The J-D Cornhead grease is NLGI 0 rated. This semi-fluid Chevron Delo EP 00 is NLGI 00 rated, so one "grade" thinner, and will pour slowly (viscosity like ketchup).

Since I haven't been able to locate the detailed specs, I don't know what the base oil viscosity is for the J-D Cornhead grease (greases range from about SAE30 to SAE 140 or higher in base oil viscosity, independent of the NLGI spec, which is achieved by adding a thickening agent - usually a lithium-based soap). The Chevron Delo EP 00 has a base oil viscosity of ISO 220, equivalent to SAE90 gear oil, so is spot on the old GM recommendations, before they changed to thicker material in the late '50's, which I believe is similar to the NLGI 0 or 00 greases.

I know lots of folks have used the J-D product, but I decided on the Chevron since the specs were readily available. The only downside is the minimum container size is the 5 gallon (35#) pail, so I have excess to offer!



 
Ray P W 
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08-03-19 02:10 PM - Post#2772325    
    In response to drdoug

"I know lots of folks have used the J-D product, but I decided on the Chevron since the specs were readily available. The only downside is the minimum container size is the 5 gallon (35#) pail, so I have excess to offer!"

Doug,

You are so right that steering gear lube, except for Corn Head, is not available in small quantities since GM dealers stopped carrying it. I got the exact GM specification and called a lubrication engineer at Shell Oil to see what Shell has. He looked up the spec and found an identical Shell product then told me the smallest quantity available for sale is 55 gallons.

Then he asked for my address so he could send me a quart as a "sample" for use in the Chevy Vega steering box in my 1932 Ford roadster street rod (Chevy powered of course). During my decades in the car hobby I've found that factory representatives of automotive parts and supplies are incredibly eager to help do-it-yourself motorheads.

Ray W



Edited by Ray P W on 08-03-19 02:10 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
drdoug 
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08-03-19 06:26 PM - Post#2772345    
    In response to Ray P W

Ray, if you still have the GM spec, I would be interested in comparing that to the Chevron spec.

In any event, I still have Chevron Delo EP 00 semi-fluid grease available in quart (1.875 lb) or standard 14 oz grease cartridges. Since I bought a 5 gal (35 lb) pail, minimum size Chevron has, I have excess that I am repackaging for fellow hobbyists and making available until my supply runs out.



Edited by drdoug on 08-03-19 06:27 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
drdoug 
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08-18-19 06:17 AM - Post#2773461    
    In response to drdoug

For vintage manual steering gearboxes.... I still have more Chevron Delo EP NLGI 00 Semi-Fluid Grease available, repackaged in standard 14 oz grease cartridges as well as 1 quart bottles. The tubes or bottles are filled and weighed in my shop, since this is excess material beyond my current needs. The 35 pound pail from which this grease was repackaged is shown in the original post.

$24 per 1.875 pound container (approximately 1 quart), plus shipping.

$13 per standard 14 oz. cartridge, plus shipping.

Shipping typically runs $9 for one to four cartridges or one or two quart-size bottles. PayPal preferred.

PM if interested.



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Ray P W 
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08-22-19 02:02 PM - Post#2773827    
    In response to drdoug


"Ray, if you still have the GM spec, I would be interested in comparing that to the Chevron spec."

Doug,

This is from the 1981 Chevy Impala, Caprice, Camaro, Malibu, Monte Carlo factory service manual that I bought when my parents bought their new 1981 Malibu wagon.

"Use only PN 1052182 (13 oz. (.38L) container) Steering Gear Lubricant which meets GM Specification 4673M, or its equivalent."

I have a Vega steering box in my 1932 Ford roadster street rod. When I needed lube for it about 15 years ago I found that all GM dealers worldwide had sold out of the GM manual steering box grease. I contacted Shell Oil and spoke with one of their tech support people. He matched the GM spec. to one of their products and sent me a can of it as a "sample".

I have found over the decades that tech support people in many auto/truck related industries are very eager to help do-it-yourselfers like me and go out of their way to be helpful. When there is no retail seller of what I'm looking for they often provide a "sample" to help a project along.

Another example of that is when I contacted Quaker State to find out where to buy their synthetic grease to lube the U-joints in my van. The lubrication engineer I spoke with told me that only the military buys it. Retailers don't carry it because it is more expensive than petroleum based grease. So he also sent me a case of that product as a "sample".

Yet another example is when I was looking for an anaerobic sealer specified for a sbc rear main bearing cap. Permatex sent me that and a bunch of their other products as "samples".

Ray W



 
drdoug 
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08-23-19 05:40 AM - Post#2773865    
    In response to Ray P W

Nice. Thanks.

Yeah, I was aware that the GM spec stuff is NLA. That's what sent me on the track of a substitute. The Chevron Delo EP 00 semi-fluid grease is a good match, has great anti-wear test results and is fully synthetic. There are Shell and Mobil products that are close to the same, but they also have minimum quantities, as you discovered.

Anyway, I bit the bullet and ordered a 5 gallon (35 pound) pail of the Chevron grease. I've provided enough to others on this and a couple other forums that I should be out of the excess fairly soon.



Edited by drdoug on 08-23-19 05:41 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 




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