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Username Post: Carpet        (Topic#357141)
Airlifter 
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07-07-19 02:04 PM - Post#2770129    

I understand the difference in cut pile and loop carpet. What I don't know is which is more durable and easier keep clean. My car is an every day driver and doesn't always get the attention it needs.

Any advise and comments appreciated, Pete

1951 styline deluxe sport coupe w/'60 261 engine & 54 powerglide


 


RAM_51 
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07-07-19 03:11 PM - Post#2770140    
    In response to Airlifter

On my '50 and 51 Deluxes, I went with what was originally in the front which was a rubber mat. In the rear of the '50, the wool caret was trash so I went with a loop carpet which simulated the wool carpet pretty well. I bought an amount from Kanter and had a local upholsterer cut it from the original and put the edging on it. The wool carpet is still in the '51 Fleetline, but stained pretty badly. I was thinking that the company below could make a very nice wool replacement, but I may have to take out a second mortgage on the house.

LINK:
https://www.cocomats.com/wool

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1951 Fleetline Preservation
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
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07-08-19 12:36 PM - Post#2770196    
    In response to Airlifter

I prefer loop carpet. I belive that was used by chevy in the late '50's and 60's.
Cleon

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1942 Chevy Special Deluxe Coupe
1955 Chevy Bel Air HTP
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1990 F##d Mustang Convertible

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drew1987 
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07-09-19 05:17 AM - Post#2770245    
    In response to Rustchips

Has anyone ever used flat carpet? And shaped it to the floor? There is a gray indoor/outdoor carpet at the home store that looks pretty darn close to what my car came with... it’s a $20 solution possibly.

Andrew D. Carapella (Drew)

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40grit 
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07-09-19 05:28 AM - Post#2770250    
    In response to drew1987

Making it lay on the floor will not be the problem if you study how to cut it and lay it properly. Your problem will be the fact it needs to have binding sewn around the edges which obviously requires a satisfactory upholstery machine as well as the material to bind it with.

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07-09-19 07:52 AM - Post#2770267    
    In response to drew1987

  • drew1987 Said:
Has anyone ever used flat carpet? And shaped it to the floor? There is a gray indoor/outdoor carpet at the home store that looks pretty darn close.......



Back in the day my then GF was trying to find carpet for her '59 Corvette. Her dad owned a carpet store and he couldn't seem to find any short loop like what she wanted. So she used indoor-outdoor and her dad's installer cut it to fit, tucked the edges under the sill plates and under the seats, and under the shifter hold-down plate. It looked good. He didn't bind the edges at all.


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RAM_51 
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07-09-19 08:31 AM - Post#2770271    
    In response to drew1987

  • drew1987 Said:
Has anyone ever used flat carpet? And shaped it to the floor?


Chevrolet did! Keep in mind that for the front floor covering, a rubber mat was used in all models. The rear carpeting was a flat piece before easing cuts were made in it to make it lay flat. See the photos above of the carpet I had made from an original carpet. There are also aftermarket carpet sets made for front and rear, both cut and molded, but I can not attest to their quality of fitment. They are kind of expensive as well.

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1951 Fleetline Preservation
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
drew1987 
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07-09-19 06:22 PM - Post#2770330    
    In response to RAM_51

The edges 40Grit means (I am thinking) is where the two pieces (front and rear) overlap. You know they brought shag carpet back. Check lows. I’m not kidding. Maybe I’ll get some shag ;-)

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RAM_51 
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07-10-19 12:55 AM - Post#2770349    
    In response to drew1987

There was no front carpet in the 49-52s...not sure about the 53-54 models...all had rubber mats in front. Originally the carpet was edged where it overlapped to conform to the torque tube hump, around the side edges, and on the two rectangular pieces on either side of the front seat. The carpeting was not put under or otherwise held down with the sill plates. It was originally held with place with common carpet tacks that were driven through the floor pan.

1951 Fleetline Preservation
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
kensluys 
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07-12-19 12:40 PM - Post#2770539    
    In response to RAM_51

  • RAM_51 Said:
There was no front carpet in the 49-52s...not sure about the 53-54 models...all had rubber mats in front.



I think this is not quite correct. If I read the 1951 Engineering Features Manual correctly, sometime during the 1950 model year the floor coverings in the Convertible and Bel Air models were changed, and "a finer quality carpet was adopted..." For the Bel Air, "At the same time, the front floor covering was changed from a rubber mat with carpet inserts to full carpeting with a black, simulated leather heel pad below the pedals."

That jives with my old memory of my 1951 Bel Air when I first bought it in 1969. It had carpet front and back, and only had 60,000 miles on it at the time. The carpet had all been pulled out by the time I found it again in 1998, though.

I am not sure what they meant by a "finer quality" carpet, but pictures that Jim McCall sent to me of his 4000 mile 1951 Bel Air seem to show cut pile carpet.



1951 Bel Air - January build date.


Edited by kensluys on 07-12-19 12:50 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
RAM_51 
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07-12-19 01:10 PM - Post#2770541    
    In response to kensluys

  • kensluys Said:
I think this is not quite correct. If I read the 1951 Engineering Features Manual correctly, sometime during the 1950 model year the floor coverings in the Convertible and Bel Air models were changed, and "a finer quality carpet was adopted..." For the Bel Air, "At the same time, the front floor covering was changed from a rubber mat with carpet inserts to full carpeting with a black, simulated leather heel pad below the pedals."


By jove Ken, it does say that in there doesn't it? So, I stand corrected. From the black and white photos in the 1950 Engineering book, it looks to me as though the carpet is somewhere between a loop and a cut pile. That's kind of the same case with the carpet in the rear and scuff pads on the rear of the front seat of my Fleetline. I'll try to get a close-up photo of the "more or less" unworn carpet on the back of the front seats.


1951 Fleetline Preservation
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
kensluys 
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07-12-19 02:42 PM - Post#2770548    
    In response to RAM_51

For information, here are the photos that Jim McCall sent to me. Again, his car was a 1951 Bel Air, with about 4000 miles on it. I can't tell for sure, but the carpet appears to be a short length cut pile.











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1951 Bel Air - January build date.


 
kensluys 
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07-12-19 03:00 PM - Post#2770551    
    In response to kensluys

On second thought, I recalled that my upholsterer had reused the original carpet on the seat back in my car. Here's a photo I just took. I think it is a tightly woven loop.




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1951 Bel Air - January build date.


 
drew1987 
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07-12-19 08:07 PM - Post#2770570    
    In response to kensluys

Mine sure looks old. It’s dryrotted (sun bleached and falling apart ) in areas. It’s two pieces. Front and rear. It’s finished where the front part overlaps the back under the seat. At we
Sure that’s not original? Could be as new as the
Car’s “restoration” in the 1960s or 70s

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jlo 
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07-14-19 06:00 PM - Post#2770703    
    In response to drew1987

Bite the bullet and git the molded carpet install it right and boom your done!



 
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07-19-19 05:25 PM - Post#2771099    
    In response to RAM_51

Ram 51, I noticed your post of the red molded carpet. I just purchased a carpet plush cut molded like the red one, in Blk for my 53 210, like in the pic, there is no dimmer hole and rubber surround. and the cut for the gas peddle and BRK/Clutch is absent. Any pics and ideas would be helpful as well as an explanation of the gas pedal mounting. The carpet I purchased is from Stock interiors and was very reasonable in price. I dont want to start the peddel cuts from the firewall, I think that looks tacky.

MB in SLC, UT.


 
RAM_51 
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07-19-19 06:04 PM - Post#2771103    
    In response to KoraB

Both of those carpet photos were eBay image grabs. Also found on eBay are carpet grommets sold by Eckler's, one of the forum's sponsors. They may also be available through some of the other usual suppliers; Chevsofthe40s, National Chevy Association among others.



LINK:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-Carpet-Grom mets-Dim...

1951 Fleetline Preservation
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
KoraB 
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07-19-19 08:35 PM - Post#2771116    
    In response to RAM_51

Ram 51, If anyone knew, i knew it would be you. Thank you kind sir. Ordering now.. Thanks for the link

MB in SLC, UT.


Edited by KoraB on 07-19-19 08:47 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 


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