Denver56BelAir
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07-07-19 06:09 AM - Post#2770097
I need a front disc brake conversion. I currently have a stock front end with 2" dropped springs. I want non-power brakes in the kit with everything included to bold on. Slotted high performance rotors are not necessary. I have Amazon prime, not sure if that gives me any leverage in what they have available. Please advise
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bobb
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07-07-19 08:19 PM - Post#2770161
In response to Denver56BelAir
drop springs may max out your alignment adjustment. i would do much homework on this. i would be looking for maybe drop spindles that help the camber curve and caster.
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 56handyman
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07-09-19 12:39 PM - Post#2770297
In response to Denver56BelAir
I bought a kit from CPP that had the drop spindles and disc brakes. I also installed 1 1/2 inch drop springs. It came out too low. I have purchased, but not yet installed stock height springs. I recommend the CPP kit, but with stock height springs.
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Rick_L
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07-09-19 03:10 PM - Post#2770313
In response to bobb
drop springs may max out your alignment adjustment. i would do much homework on this.
Actually, because it's fairly common on 55-57 cars to run out of shims (modified or not), lowering the car with springs might actually help with alignment settings, because the upper control arm becomes more horizontal when that's done. This requires adding shims.
Biggest problem with lowering springs is bottoming out.
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Denver56BelAir
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07-09-19 07:33 PM - Post#2770338
In response to 56handyman
I will look into CPP. I prefer not to install new spindles. I remember I installed some aftermarket upper control arm thig-a ma-bobs that allowed for a more accurate alignment. The car drives pretty straight now without uneven tire wear.
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07-16-19 11:19 AM - Post#2770843
In response to Denver56BelAir
I put in ccp units complete but with tubular top A arms ( 5 deg added) and it all went great
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Bruces 57
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08-22-19 12:23 PM - Post#2773823
In response to 498 chevy
Hello
I had stock spindles with stock springs Took out the 2" lowering springs, then, I added the upper and lower tubular control arms by CPP and put the 2" lowering springs back in!!?? So far so good!!!
Then I got a all 4 disc brake kit from Pirate Jack, with Willwood disc and calipers, Master, 8" chrome duel booster, all new SS brake lines, Rear disc with caddy calipers and e brakes! WORKS REALLY FINE!! BUT DISC FRONT DRUM REAR ALSO WORK FINE AS WELL!!!
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08-29-19 09:06 AM - Post#2774402
In response to Denver56BelAir
Paul. I have a mpb front disc set up for a 55. I had it installed on to the car but never had fluid in the system before I up graded.
it will go for good price.
if interested please pm
ps I have a 55 Belair but I believe it also fits 56-57
tom
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Bad56Sedan
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08-29-19 02:29 PM - Post#2774428
In response to Denver56BelAir
Sounds like you are using stock spindles?
if this is correct ALL you need is;
The brackets for the calipers,
The calipers,
Brake pads...........
One of the many repop parts boutiques has those brackets
And the rotors, usually 70 chevelle rotors and calipers.
There are a few other pieces needed, brakes hoses and some new brake line.
I guess you currently have drums all the way around?
one issue with the above method is those rortors on stock spindles moves the wheels out some amount on both sides.
There are some vendors that sell specially made type rotors that do not do this, something to think about, not an issue if your buying new wheels too.
I do not know if you can run front disc's and rear drums with the single pot master cylinder, I'll just say I wouldn't.
Now is the time to split the front brakes from the rear brakes.
Add the dual master cylinder.
Yeah those stock master cylinder bolts are too short for the dual pot master.
That's another fun issue, but doable.
as usual there is always something, before you go too far with this project verify steering linkage parts clearance, there is a bushing used that moves the stock bolted arm to the tie rod inward, verify clearance. Seems mine hit on the stop on the a frame.
Then verify that the unloaded caliper can move enough to take the pads metal to metal, basically verify the caliper movement is not obstructed.
More than likely I have left out some details, but for all the issues that come up doing such things myself it makes going to the local cruise hang out and having the guy that "bought it" like that tell you how much it cost to have it done.
Once again doing it yourself, priceless!
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4dr 57
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11-30-19 04:24 PM - Post#2781307
In response to Bad56Sedan
Brake hoses - 69 Camaro - fit like they born there - use the proper fluid bolt on the caliper to hose.
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Denver56BelAir
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08-07-20 06:41 AM - Post#2800514
In response to 56handyman
I decided to get these.
https://www.classicchevy.com/chevy-front-disc-brak ...
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Shepherd
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08-07-20 07:35 AM - Post#2800518
In response to Denver56BelAir
Used this kit on a 55 Belair, using 15x6 wheels that supposedly would clear the the calipers, not so had to grind off the corner of the caliper where it contacted the wheel. Check this carefully.
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Denver56BelAir
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09-23-20 08:04 AM - Post#2804143
In response to Shepherd
I bought an Eckler's Classic Chevy front disc brake conversion kit. I installed the rotors and calipers and master cylinder correctly. I can't run the brake lines.
Does anyone have experience with kits from them?
The brake likes hug the frame as close as I can get. They ends don't line up correctly. I'm sure I have the right kit, it just takes some patience to line things up
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Bad56Sedan
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09-23-20 07:35 PM - Post#2804187
In response to Denver56BelAir
Apparently we must do things the same way,
On my car the brake lines coming from the master cylinder to the wheels are some how not in the right place either,
They are under the inner fender wheel and just not in the right place,
Hopefully someone will post a picture on how the originals go.
Are you using a dual reservoir master and a proportional valve?
The extra lines at the reservoir makes that area congested.
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4dr 57
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09-24-20 08:36 AM - Post#2804214
In response to 4dr 57
Brake hoses - 69 Camaro - fit like they born there - use the proper fluid bolt on the caliper to hose.
UPDATE
For some reason when I asked for a 69 Camaro brake hose a week ago they showed something different. They looked up a brake hose for a 70 Camaro and it looked like ones I had bought in the past so I ordered it. Fits like a glove.
A Week Later - ahh...it doesn't fit like a glove after all (china made stuff is all that's available that I know of-would like to see some USA made hoses) The gap at the far end where the horse shoe looking thing goes is too wide and requires the addition of a very, very thing washer
on that side of tab. No, it absolutely was not because the tab was made of a slightly thinner metal, I meazured. It's too wide!
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Denver56BelAir
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12-15-20 11:24 AM - Post#2810044
In response to Big T
I installed my disc brakes successfully and took my car for a ride. It brakes good. Seems like the steering is noticeably more sloppy. I also can hear the tires screeetch as I turn the wheel even when I'm driving real slow.
Seems like something is wrong. I used the stock spindles so the geometry should stay the same. Perhaps it's always been sloppy and loud tire and I just picked up on it.
Paul
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5Larry7
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12-15-20 11:26 AM - Post#2810045
In response to Denver56BelAir
Some disc brake kits move the front tires outward. If your car has this it could contribute to the problem.
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Rick_L
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12-15-20 02:44 PM - Post#2810067
In response to 5Larry7
That tire screeching is the sound of the toe in being off. You need to get a wheel alignment.
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