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tsegnit 
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05-19-19 01:35 PM - Post#2766725    

Have 1963 BelAir, 4 door sedan. Replaced both rear doors with spotless donors. Body shop went to install new door gaskets and made the discovery that the top half of doors have the correct holes for the plasic pins to go into; the bottom half of doors have larger holes. The original doors had the same size holes all the way around.

Called some distributors and they had no clue. Could these donor doors be from a different US factory, Canadian or manufactured somewhere else on the planet? As an FYI, my car was manufactured in Tarrytown, NY.

Please help...inquiring minds want to know.

Thank you!

Life's Journey is not to Arrive at the Grave Safely in a Well preserved Body, rather to skid in Sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Thank you God, What a Ride!"'


 
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55Brodie 
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05-19-19 02:12 PM - Post#2766731    
    In response to tsegnit

I think you need the plastic weatherstrip plugs for the doors.




 
tsegnit 
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05-19-19 04:48 PM - Post#2766744    
    In response to 55Brodie

obviously...the problem is the original doors (and subsequent gaskets) have one size hole / plastic pins all the way around the perimeter of the door. The donor doors have 2 different size holes...

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junky 
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05-19-19 07:33 PM - Post#2766753    
    In response to tsegnit

Brodie is correct. There are plastic plugs that go into the larger holes, and then the plastic tabs that are inserted into the rubber will press into the plastic plugs that fit into the door.
I found what I believe is the correct part, in the Hubbard's Impala Parts (800-846-7252). It is called 1959-1962 door weather strip pin retainers part number(5962DWPR) (set) $16.99. I suggest that you call and verify if this is the correct item. I believe that they are also used on some of the other GM cars of that era, so you might want to check other brands also. I am also surprised that they were not included with the rubber gaskets. Where did you purchase the gaskets, and who is the manufacturer?

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tsegnit 
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05-20-19 08:55 AM - Post#2766790    
    In response to junky

Thanks for the help guys. The door rubber / gaskets came from Classic Industries. I contacted them more than once and all I got in reply were crickets........

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pvs409 
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05-20-19 09:02 AM - Post#2766793    
    In response to tsegnit

Classic industries does not make the gaskets. They don’t make anything to my knowledge, they sell products from suppliers.
Junky asked want name was on the door gasket packages.
Companies like Soft Seal, Metro, Steele products & others make weatherstrip.

Paul

57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
junky 
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05-20-19 04:15 PM - Post#2766822    
    In response to pvs409

I called Classis Industries, and asked them about this door weather seal. what I learned is that the part number for the front door is W**** and the rear door is W2009. I explained your problem to the sales person, and he suggested that you return them within the 30 day return period for a refund, the reason is "wrong part". They have to be in original condition and be resalable. He was unable to give me the manufacturers name of the rubber.
It was obvious that he was just an order taker, and didn't know much more about the parts that they are selling except for what is in their catalog. So much so, that even though I gave him the body style information a couple of times, he still didn't get the correct part number for the front door of your car! Then I decided to take a look at the "featured vendors", and I saw OER listed. Being a detective, I went to the OER website, only to see that the website was identical to the Classic Industries website. At this point, I have given up on Classic Industries being of any additional help for your problem.
I also called a friend that sells reproduction parts, and he recalls the plastic plugs, but doesn't know if he has them available. When I hear back from him, I will let you know.
I also contacted Rubber the Right Way, and they also sell the weather strips, and their front door weather-strip is made by Precision, and the rear door is made by Metro.
My best advise is to return what you have, and not buy any until you have assurances that what you get will work.
Junky

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dogdish 
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05-21-19 01:38 PM - Post#2766868    
    In response to junky

I think OER has them. Believe the ones I had were pale orange in color. The part number Junky found is correct

Bob G.
1964 Belair barn find
409/4speed NOM
8700 orig. miles
never restored


Edited by dogdish on 05-21-19 01:43 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
junky 
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05-21-19 10:17 PM - Post#2766907    
    In response to tsegnit

Had to call in a favor to get this part located. It is the hole plugs C8500 that are designed for a 1/4” hole. Check out this page.
http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/search.cgi

Check the hole size in the door, and if it is 1/4", then these are what you need. Cheap at $3.15 per lot of 10. Clarks shipping charges are very reasonable. If you order tomorrow, Wednesday, you should have them by Monday, or maybe sooner. Most orders ship the same day if ordered by 1PM.

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junky 
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06-06-19 08:36 AM - Post#2767828    
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  • tsegnit Said:
Thanks for the help guys. The door rubber / gaskets came from Classic Industries. I contacted them more than once and all I got in reply were crickets........



What did you finally do to fix this situation?

Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.


 
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