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Username Post: 1951-Two different types of vin #'s        (Topic#356185)
55Chev4me 
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04-27-19 12:55 PM - Post#2765152    

Some vin's on the 51's starts with numbers then the 3 letters
21JPG00000
Some starts with letters
JBA000000
If my decoding is correct the first one looks like a serial # and the second an engine #
Did they use the engine # for a serial on some of the 51's?
Hope I didn't miss this in a the post I went through

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wagonman100 
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04-29-19 06:14 PM - Post#2765344    
    In response to 55Chev4me

Some states registered cars by their engine number, so that is what might appear on a title. Are the numbers you are looking at on titles or on VIN plates?

Jay
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55Chev4me 
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04-30-19 05:38 AM - Post#2765372    
    In response to wagonman100

The vin plate starts with 21JPG and the title starts with JBA. Looking at the chevy 1951 specs for trucks the vin plate would be correct and the title would be correct for an engine #'. If this is correct should there be something in both of them that would tie them together or not.
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Edited by 55Chev4me on 04-30-19 05:52 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
RAM_51 
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04-30-19 01:42 PM - Post#2765402    
    In response to 55Chev4me

I know that the 1951 passenger cars were the first year that the serial number was riveted to the "A" pillar instead of simply being clutch screwed to it. If the trucks followed suit, it would make sense that different states could have started using this somewhat more permanently attached number as a VIN as opposed to using the engine block number. So, as wagonman100 pointed out, it may have been state dependent as to which number was used.

1951 Fleetline Preservation
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
55Chev4me 
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04-30-19 03:47 PM - Post#2765414    
    In response to wagonman100

The title starts with JBA which is an engine # and the vin starts with 2 numbers then letters JPG which would be a vin #.
So did they all have a vin plate with a serial # but some states as in Texas titled by the engine?
Thanks

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55Chev4me 
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04-30-19 03:53 PM - Post#2765415    
    In response to RAM_51

I seen a high end restoration 51 pickup that had a vin plate with the engine # and it was attached with screws!
Go figure
Thanks

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RAM_51 
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04-30-19 05:18 PM - Post#2765423    
    In response to 55Chev4me

Technically Chevrolet called the plate in the door jamb or on the "A" pillar a Serial No. Plate. I'm not 100% sure when the term "Vehicle Identification Number" or "VIN" came into use. I can guess and say the 60's. I can't say for a fact if the trucks followed suit of the '51 passenger cars in having the Serial No. Plate riveted to the door jamb. My '53 6500 has a riveted Serial No. Plate. Also difficult to say what happened with the truck you describe as "high end", and the term "restoration" has almost as many meanings as the person using the word. Be that as it may, the serial number to my knowledge was a different number completely from the engine block number. I have heard in some instances with '51 and up passenger cars where the original engine is long gone and the car was titled with the engine number that the DMV of that particular state will re-issue a title with the riveted serial number as opposed to the long gone block number.

1951 Fleetline Preservation
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
55Chev4me 
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05-01-19 02:53 AM - Post#2765451    
    In response to RAM_51

Thanks for that info.

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