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Username Post: window replacement - full frame tear-out - capping question        (Topic#356179)
LtFrankDrebin 
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04-26-19 10:01 PM - Post#2765123    

I'm replacing some windows in my house. I'm doing a complete tear-out to the rough opening. I believe the replacement windows that I have are full-frame. Question is - does the aluminum sill capping install after the window is in place? I used to install windows for a guy, but I think they were mostly pocket inserts. The first thing we'd install is the sill cap and then the replacement window would sit on top of it. With the windows that I have, sitting plumb on a flat surface, the underside of the slope on the exterior side is about 1/2" up, so how would the sill cap meet-upunless the window installs first, and then I build the sill slope, and then cap with aluminum? House is vinyl siding with J channels.

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CowboyTrukr 
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04-27-19 06:06 PM - Post#2765158    
    In response to LtFrankDrebin

What kind of replacements did you buy?

Greg

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LtFrankDrebin 
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04-28-19 07:41 AM - Post#2765184    
    In response to CowboyTrukr

They're Simonton double-hung. I described to the salesman what I was going to do and what I wanted to achieve, so I assume these are full-frame replacements. I stressed that I didn't want that thick frame look and wanted maximum glass area. I remember when installing pocket insert windows that the bottom of the frame was sloped. The bottoms of these windows are not. You can stand them up on the floor with no support. The only slope is the last 1/2" or so at the outside edge. So I guess the sill capping is installed after these windows are in-place? Looks like you build the sill up to the installed window?

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wagonman100 
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04-29-19 07:34 PM - Post#2765351    
    In response to LtFrankDrebin

Most replacement windows are installed first and then they are wrapped afterward.

Jay
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LtFrankDrebin 
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05-02-19 06:36 AM - Post#2765539    
    In response to wagonman100

Thank you. That's what it's looking like. I guess a full-frame replacement is like a new construction window, except without the nailing flange.

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wagonman100 
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05-03-19 03:23 PM - Post#2765662    
    In response to LtFrankDrebin

Exactly.

Jay
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1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
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1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
LtFrankDrebin 
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05-16-19 03:25 PM - Post#2766565    
    In response to wagonman100

So as for the exterior capping - not sure where to have it meet the window frame, especially the sill. Where I would like to have the sill capping meet the window frame is right under the bottom of the slope, however, on the very bottom of the frame there are weep holes. So does that mean I have to have the window frame up off the sill capping that 1/2" or so so that the weep holes are open to the outside? If so, that would be unsightly. If with the antiquated Pella replacements that I'm replacing have a nice clean transition between the window sill and the sill cap - no gap.

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65_Impala 
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05-30-19 08:29 AM - Post#2767320    
    In response to LtFrankDrebin

Is there a groove around the perimeter of the window? The manufacturers add that for a flashing so it would be the obvious spot to put the edge of the capping.

The drain holes have to be left open so they drain to the outside. I've never seen a window with the drain holes on the bottom of the frame since that would make it next to impossible to allow it to drain. They are typically found on the front face of the window frame along the bottom edge.



 




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