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Username Post: 700R4 frayed cable        (Topic#356008)
gchemist 
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04-14-19 08:12 AM - Post#2764203    

Well, it finally happened. A stock TV setup with a stop cylinder finally frayed the cable. The long end is stuck inside the sleeve. Basically, it unwound itself. It won't pull out any more. It's time to replace the stock TV cable.

Which company makes the best cable? My ZZ4 set up is an RPM Air Gap using an Edelbrock carb. The bracket is modified for height alignment. It bolted down by the rear two left intake bolts. I'll look for pics or take some later.

Does anyone have 700R4 TV aftermarket cable pictures?

Does the pan have to come off to replace the trans hookup? How long is the cable? I don't need another cheap stock replacement. It's an expensive heavily modified 700R4. It needs a cable to give WOT and control TV functions properly. It can barely get of out first gear with such low throttle pull.

'83 Silverardo XST - ZZ4 powered
'95 Jimmy SLT (Bought @131,814)
'96 GMC Jimmy LS Ret. @236651 miles


 


acardon 
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04-14-19 08:24 AM - Post#2764204    
    In response to gchemist

I haven't had any problems with TCI cables.
No, you don't have to remove the pan. The connection pulls out of the transmission enough to hook the cable to the link.
Link to cable.

Don
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gchemist 
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04-14-19 09:28 AM - Post#2764205    
    In response to acardon

acardon,
The current cable is just like that one. The end cable stop barrel frayed the wire over time. The screw is too sharp.

Great. I don't need to change the oil filter anyway. It has less than 10,000 miles on it. Due to a small leak when parked for long periods of time, fresh oil has been added over the years.

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Frayed 700R4 cable with barrel stop.


'83 Silverardo XST - ZZ4 powered
'95 Jimmy SLT (Bought @131,814)
'96 GMC Jimmy LS Ret. @236651 miles


Edited by gchemist on 04-14-19 02:33 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
TAT_2 
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04-14-19 05:03 PM - Post#2764221    
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YA MIGHT FIND A CLAMP TYPE,INSTEAD OF THE SCREW SET TYPE.

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paulo57509 
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04-14-19 05:49 PM - Post#2764225    
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  • gchemist Said:
Well, it finally happened. A stock TV setup with a stop cylinder finally frayed the cable. The long end is stuck inside the sleeve. Basically, it unwound itself. It won't pull out any more. It's time to replace the stock TV cable.

Which company makes the best cable? My ZZ4 set up is an RPM Air Gap using an Edelbrock carb. The bracket is modified for height alignment. It bolted down by the rear two left intake bolts. I'll look for pics or take some later.

Does anyone have 700R4 TV aftermarket cable pictures?

Does the pan have to come off to replace the trans hookup? How long is the cable? I don't need another cheap stock replacement. It's an expensive heavily modified 700R4. It needs a cable to give WOT and control TV functions properly. It can barely get of out first gear with such low throttle pull.



FWIW, there's typically a lot of TV cable discussions on thirdgen-dot-org (https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/transmissions- drivetrain/). Just a sample....

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/transmissions- driv...

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/transmissions- driv...

It is not necessary to drop the pan in order to remove the TV cable from the transmission.

I'd avoid driving it without TV cable control.

You can use the following as a guide:







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gchemist 
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04-15-19 04:04 AM - Post#2764247    
    In response to paulo57509

Hey TAT_2,
I had to dig to find a link or part number to that wire clamp. Interesting. European.
They come in different clamping sizes. I'll have to get digital calipers to measure the wire size.
https://www.s3i.co.uk/heavy-duty-wire-rope-r ing-cl...

paulo5709
BADBOW is parked until the cable is replaced. I may try to unbind the cable to drive it to a friends house. It's only a short distance. We may just tow it there. Thanks for all the info. I can use another aftermarket adjustable cable. Using a better cable end clamp will solve the problem from happening again. Thanks for posting pics and links!

'83 Silverardo XST - ZZ4 powered
'95 Jimmy SLT (Bought @131,814)
'96 GMC Jimmy LS Ret. @236651 miles


 
rumrumm 
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04-15-19 01:02 PM - Post#2764282    
    In response to gchemist

Mine came from Bowtie Overdrives, but Lokar makes a good cable. A lot of street rod guys use Lokar products.

Lynn

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TAT_2 
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04-15-19 04:08 PM - Post#2764294    
    In response to gchemist

FOUND THIS COMPRESSION TYPE ALSO.
https://www.griplocksystems.com/product/30-3816e-v...


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Rick_L 
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04-15-19 06:28 PM - Post#2764302    
    In response to TAT_2

Use an OEM type cable instead of that cobbled up universal stuff. Get the right cable bracket or modify a cable bracket to get it in the right place fore/aft for the OEM type cable. The cable bracket location does not have to be precision, that's what the adjustment is for.



 
gchemist 
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04-16-19 09:12 AM - Post#2764335    
    In response to Rick_L

Rick_L,
I tried a few brackets. Most of them would bend or be too short for a stock cable. A truck 700R4 cable is too short. paulo5709's link has great info. I might be able to use a different 700R4 cable. I need to measure the cable length from bracket to carb. One of the stock cables listed may work. The carb connection does have to be long from it's location, rear two intake bolts.

A: Cable end = 6" = UNKNOWN, V8? Carb?
B: Cable end = 5 3/4" = Crossfire
C: Cable end = 7 3/4" = TBI
D: Cable end = 6 1/2" = TPI
E: Cable end = 5" = V6 ( MPFI ? )


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Carb cables with cruise control option.


'83 Silverardo XST - ZZ4 powered
'95 Jimmy SLT (Bought @131,814)
'96 GMC Jimmy LS Ret. @236651 miles


 
69_BOWTIE 
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04-18-19 07:32 AM - Post#2764464    
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Funny you should ask ,I just fineshed my 700r4 and am going through this cable fiasco now. I pulled trans and trashed my original cable it got hung up and screwed the end up. Any way I got one of the universal ones like yours but the cable housing is to long for my liking to many curves to the trans ,having a hell of a time finding one that is around the 35" the one I have now is a 39.5 ".I used a Bowtie Overdrive on my 69 C-10 and that is a great setup, but it is now over $200 I cringed at $150 6 yrs. ago.


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Texasray 
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04-18-19 04:43 PM - Post#2764505    
    In response to 69_BOWTIE

Use a cable from a mid '80 F body TPI. They are about 8 inches longer, due to having to reach the throttle body on TPI's.
ATP used to make a great one, we used these back then when replacing junk yard 305's & 350's. The yard always cuts them..???

Anyway the attachment & adjustment will be like the original.

Sam



 
gchemist 
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04-21-19 05:36 AM - Post#2764710    
    In response to Texasray

Texasray,
Do you have a GM part number for a TPI cable?
I found these numbers: ATP Y363 {#10079744, 14091865, 25521263
~61" in length. Looks very promising!

I ordered clamps for wire cables from 2.5-5 mm. The three smallest size clamps were ordered. The 2.5 mm clamps look promising to work better on generic TV length cables. The flat clamp will not fray a wire rope cable like a cylinder set screw.

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Cable wire clamps.


'83 Silverardo XST - ZZ4 powered
'95 Jimmy SLT (Bought @131,814)
'96 GMC Jimmy LS Ret. @236651 miles


 
Algoma56 
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04-21-19 07:50 AM - Post#2764718    
    In response to gchemist

Lots of good info here. I have a 700R4 slated for install behind a F*** small block with Edelbrock carb. Will need to make bracket, etc to install on that manifold.



 
gchemist 
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04-21-19 09:33 AM - Post#2764731    
    In response to Algoma56

Algoma56,
The best bracket I found that will not bend/flex for a TV cable is an Edelbrock Throttle Cable Brackets 8036. I had mine cut and extended height wise to align with an RPM Air Gap intake. It bolts to the rear left intake bolts. If you plan to make your own, start with the 8036.

A nice option is a carb adapter if you need one.
http://www.bowtieoverdrives.com/catalog/catalog_in...



'83 Silverardo XST - ZZ4 powered
'95 Jimmy SLT (Bought @131,814)
'96 GMC Jimmy LS Ret. @236651 miles


Edited by gchemist on 04-21-19 09:36 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 


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