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Username Post: Assault Rifles banned down under.        (Topic#355992)
Bel Air kiwi 
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04-11-19 09:51 PM - Post#2764080    

Hi Guys, A new law came into place yesterday that has given a blanket ban to private ownership of any semi-automatic or fully automatic assault rifles here in NZ.
Also includes extended magazines etc.

Only exceptions are the Miltary, Police, Pest Control companies, and collector items.

Very similar to Australian law now, and for similar reasons.

Cheers Kiwi

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04-12-19 04:14 AM - Post#2764088    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Yea like a law will stop that behavior from happening.



 
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04-12-19 07:08 AM - Post#2764099    
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GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.

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04-12-19 08:55 AM - Post#2764107    
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  • Bel Air kiwi Said:
Hi Guys, A new law came into place yesterday that has given a blanket ban to private ownership of any semi-automatic or fully automatic assault rifles here in NZ.
Also includes extended magazines etc.

Only exceptions are the Miltary, Police, Pest Control companies, and collector items.

Very similar to Australian law now, and for similar reasons.

Cheers Kiwi


Well, at least now everyone there is safe from law-abiding citizens! None of those gonna go on an unlawful shooting spree with an "assault" rifle.

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04-12-19 04:00 PM - Post#2764139    
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"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns", we've all seen/read that; same applies to the type of weapon, and parts for them. I am NOT a "gun freak", but I do have firearms; the key word in firearms is "arms". I've had 9 spinal surgeries, and have developed a hereditary form of peripheral neuropathy (a degenerative nerve disease); there's NO way I could defend myself against an attacker, so a firearm is literally the only way of protecting myself. I can't even run. I spent 32 years in healthcare, our basis in that line of work is being the preservation of life, and not the taking of it; however, I would have no problem using a firearm to protect myself, or another person. I really see no need for military style weaponry. The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America, gives us the "right to bear arms", but, when our Forefather's drew up that document, firearms were muzzle-loaded, flintlock, single shot firearms, and there was really no way fully automatic weapons and machine guns could have been considered in their thinking. Basically, the Constitution has't kept up in that regard. The military is the ONLY entity that should have access to those types of weapons (JMO), and the police really should't have access to them either (JMO). Where is the line drawn? Semi-automatic handgun, hunting rifle/shotgun, bump stocks, machine gun, fully functional tank, fighter jet with full armament? There are some people who could afford any of those, but should they have access? I do think the time will come when all of that is decided for us, no matter what we might personally want. Like everything else, all it takes is some moron to ruin it for everyone, and there are a lot of those morons out there. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.




 
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04-12-19 04:14 PM - Post#2764140    
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I prefer semi-automatic versus revolver personally.



 
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04-12-19 04:54 PM - Post#2764144    
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56 Sedan delivery, I have never had any negative feelings about any thing you have ever said but I kind of think that since our sworn law enforcement people are faced daily with the problem of dealing with folks who are armed with semi automatic and automatic weapons
they must be similarly equipped. That line of reasoning go back as I recall to the period about the time of the LA riots when police were getting fire from roof tops etc and responding with 12 Gage shotguns and .38 caliber pistols.

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04-12-19 05:02 PM - Post#2764145    
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NEVER TAKE A KNIFE TO A GUN FIGHT !!!

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04-12-19 10:18 PM - Post#2764152    
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  • 2blu52 Said:
56 Sedan delivery, I have never had any negative feelings about any thing you have ever said but I kind of think that since our sworn law enforcement people are faced daily with the problem of dealing with folks who are armed with semi automatic and automatic weapons
they must be similarly equipped. That line of reasoning go back as I recall to the period about the time of the LA riots when police were getting fire from roof tops etc and responding with 12 Gage shotguns and .38 caliber pistols.


Virtually everyday in this country, we read/hear about police officers committing crimes, and acts against citizens. The same people we issue firearms too, and swear in to "protect and serve". That's a scary situation, to think they may also have access to these weapons. Personally, I don't think it's worth the risk. "LA" was a long time ago, and what has occurred since of a similar nature? Not saying I have the answers, just that there's a reason to be extra cautious.
I am Butch/56sedandelivery.

And here's a reason I made the comment about law enforcement. See Saturdays edition, 4-13-19, online of The Daily Herald. Snohomish County Deputies fire upon a man, but he probably had it coming. One deputy fired his RIFLE 20 times at the perp! Others fired their sidearms. He lived having been hit TWICE; sounds like some firearm training and practice is required. This was't a long standoff; the perp was right in front of them. One round went through the bathroom wall of a neighboring house; that is unacceptable. Now, what if "Deputy 20 shots with a rifle" had had a machine gun at his disposal? This is in the county I live, Snohomish County, Washington State, and there have been a lot of lawsuits against this law enforcement agency, that they lost. Look up lawsuits against Snohomish County Sheriff's Office. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.




Edited by 56sedandelivery on 04-13-19 11:48 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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04-14-19 07:17 AM - Post#2764202    
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  • TAT_2 Said:
NEVER TAKE A KNIFE TO A GUN FIGHT !!!



Good advice. I always have my S&W 4" 500 Mag close at hand.







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04-14-19 06:36 PM - Post#2764231    
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Hi Butch, Thank you for your considered reply. The situation that this change came about from was a massacre in two places of worship. 50 dead and 39 badly injured. All shot while unarmed and knelt in prayer.

The weapons were all legal semi Automatics, modified and with back to back extended magazines.

We have never had an incident like this in our country before. Decades ago there were two massacres but both were experienced gun users on the run using bolt action hunting rifles. This was a terrorist hate crime played out in a different city.
The victims had no relationship to the assailant.

We are a Westminster (English.) style democracy rather than your Constitutional democracy. So we don't have a set of constitutional rights and amendments. We have a bill of rights that acts in a similar way. However, this is a piece of legislation that is recent and can be changed.
So no automatic right to "Bear Arms" here.

I understand about a third of our population own firearms. Mostly these are rifles and shotguns, as handguns have never been legal for the general public.
Mostly these folks will be hunters and or farmers where there is often a need to euthanize injured stock.

In our hunting circles, you would be considered a joke if you turned up with a semi-automatic.
The second shot should be only needed if you did not get a kill shot, and the animal is injured.

The only legitimate use we have for semi-automatic weapons use was pest control. Bolt action isn't practical when you shoot 50,000 rabbits a year. This has been catered for in new legislation but is severely limited and calibre restricted. Commercial use only.

My Grandfather, my Dad and I all had hunting rifles. All Bolt action. My Grandfather hunted for food for his family out of necessity, as did his sons and daughters.
During the school holidays, my Dad used to go goat hunting for the bounty on remote farmland. I used to shoot possums for fur once leg traps were banned, but the anti-fur movement killed off that trade totally.

If you are a fit and proper person you can keep these weapons through a registration process, and under the supervision of the Police.

From my perspective semi-automatics are only for mass and somewhat random killing of people. They are a war weapon for people who can't or choose not to shoot particularly accurately. Unless you are in the service of your country then owning and using these sorts of weapons is a clear indication that you have considered and are prepared to kill another human being over a transgression.

Butch our Police don't wear side arms but they are in their vehicles and rifles are in the trunk. They don't spray bullets randomly around the neighbourhood and they don't execute suspects. Sadly we did have a situation where a Police sniper shot dead the Hostage not the Assailant but this was a one-off.

Our specialist firearms Police teams don't roll up in military vehicles with guns bristling. They deploy to isolate the situation and then negotiate if they can.
They will sit you out and everybody knows they will not stand down. Often they will use teargas and dogs, but they prefer to get the family involved to negotiate.

If you charge at a police officer with a weapon they will shoot, but its more likely they will wound rather than kill, although it has happened.

Outside of organised crime people who get shot are mostly known to the assailant or it was unintentional. The idea that Men, Women, and Children are violated by strangers is valid but flies in the face of the fact that it is nearly ten times more likely to be a person known to them who has regular access.


The likelihood that any given US home will have the protection of a firearm is very high. This would make it absurd for a burglar to not resource themselves in a similar way. This argument cuts both ways and who is to say that if you startle a burglar and they wound or kill you (They are ready you are not.) that they then feel the need to kill your family as witnesses.

There is nothing you can do about the random acts of the mentally unhinged. And if you live your life in such a way as to make people want to kill you then it is difficult to prevent that also. But the notion that you are at mortal risk from other ordinary members of your community is a tragic way to live.

But I believe that you as a nation have been conditioned to live in fear of threats that aren't really there, for political and economic purposes. Random acts of terror are nearly impossible to detect and prevent in a free society.

But the idea that you, as one of the worlds most powerful and economically large nations should live in fear is absurd unless you know you have done something that warrants retribution.

I have travelled in the US and stayed in both cheap motels and private homes. My experience is that it was a very hospitable and generous place where folks were interested and interesting. I didn't see any violence and never saw a gun other than on a police officer.
I went with a Hispanic guy to look at a car that Black guy was selling in Compton. No problem. However, I was told not to wind the window down as folks will think you are going to do a drive by.

Cheers Kiwi









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Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 04-14-19 08:11 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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04-14-19 09:20 PM - Post#2764238    
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  • Bel Air kiwi Said:
Hi Butch, Thank you for your considered reply. The situation that this change came about from was a massacre in two places of worship. 50 dead and 39 badly injured. All shot while unarmed and knelt in prayer.

The weapons were all legal semi Automatics, modified and with back to back extended magazines.

We have never had an incident like this in our country before. Decades ago there were two massacres but both were experienced gun users on the run using bolt action hunting rifles. This was a terrorist hate crime played out in a different city.
The victims had no relationship to the assailant.

We are a Westminster (English.) style democracy rather than your Constitutional democracy. So we don't have a set of constitutional rights and amendments. We have a bill of rights that acts in a similar way. However, this is a piece of legislation that is recent and can be changed.
So no automatic right to "Bear Arms" here.

I understand about a third of our population own firearms. Mostly these are rifles and shotguns, as handguns have never been legal for the general public.
Mostly these folks will be hunters and or farmers where there is often a need to euthanize injured stock.

In our hunting circles, you would be considered a joke if you turned up with a semi-automatic.
The second shot should be only needed if you did not get a kill shot, and the animal is injured.

The only legitimate use we have for semi-automatic weapons use was pest control. Bolt action isn't practical when you shoot 50,000 rabbits a year. This has been catered for in new legislation but is severely limited and calibre restricted. Commercial use only.

My Grandfather, my Dad and I all had hunting rifles. All Bolt action. My Grandfather hunted for food for his family out of necessity, as did his sons and daughters.
During the school holidays, my Dad used to go goat hunting for the bounty on remote farmland. I used to shoot possums for fur once leg traps were banned, but the anti-fur movement killed off that trade totally.

If you are a fit and proper person you can keep these weapons through a registration process, and under the supervision of the Police.

From my perspective semi-automatics are only for mass and somewhat random killing of people. They are a war weapon for people who can't or choose not to shoot particularly accurately. Unless you are in the service of your country then owning and using these sorts of weapons is a clear indication that you have considered and are prepared to kill another human being over a transgression.

Butch our Police don't wear side arms but they are in their vehicles and rifles are in the trunk. They don't spray bullets randomly around the neighbourhood and they don't execute suspects. Sadly we did have a situation where a Police sniper shot dead the Hostage not the Assailant but this was a one-off.

Our specialist firearms Police teams don't roll up in military vehicles with guns bristling. They deploy to isolate the situation and then negotiate if they can.
They will sit you out and everybody knows they will not stand down. Often they will use teargas and dogs, but they prefer to get the family involved to negotiate.

If you charge at a police officer with a weapon they will shoot, but its more likely they will wound rather than kill, although it has happened.

Outside of organised crime people who get shot are mostly known to the assailant or it was unintentional. The idea that Men, Women, and Children are violated by strangers is valid but flies in the face of the fact that it is nearly ten times more likely to be a person known to them who has regular access.


The likelihood that any given US home will have the protection of a firearm is very high. This would make it absurd for a burglar to not resource themselves in a similar way. This argument cuts both ways and who is to say that if you startle a burglar and they wound or kill you (They are ready you are not.) that they then feel the need to kill your family as witnesses.

There is nothing you can do about the random acts of the mentally unhinged. And if you live your life in such a way as to make people want to kill you then it is difficult to prevent that also. But the notion that you are at mortal risk from other ordinary members of your community is a tragic way to live.

But I believe that you as a nation have been conditioned to live in fear of threats that aren't really there, for political and economic purposes. Random acts of terror are nearly impossible to detect and prevent in a free society.

But the idea that you, as one of the worlds most powerful and economically large nations should live in fear is absurd unless you know you have done something that warrants retribution.

I have travelled in the US and stayed in both cheap motels and private homes. My experience is that it was a very hospitable and generous place where folks were interested and interesting. I didn't see any violence and never saw a gun other than on a police officer.
I went with a Hispanic guy to look at a car that Black guy was selling in Compton. No problem. However, I was told not to wind the window down as folks will think you are going to do a drive by.

Cheers Kiwi





I'm thinking you won't find much in the way of support for your opinion. We...ancestors, got tired of being under the thumb of the British, hence our revolt.

A police officer leaving his sidearm in a car has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. "Oh wait Mr Bad guy with a gun. Do you mind getting a spot of tea while I go back to my unit to get my sidearm so that I can shoot to injure.

If the situation ever arose where I had to take a shot, you can be assured it would be center mass to stop the threat.

You seem to be of the opinion that the USA is some distant take off of Somolia where everyone has an automatic weapon...well...maybe ?Chicago.

Once you ban all guns, the weapon of choice will be knives...does China or GB ring a bell.

I think you'll find that all Americans that have served, military or otherwise, will not surrender their weapons....period.

BTW....mine were lost at sea in a boating accident, except for the .40cal Glock at my side as I type.

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04-14-19 10:32 PM - Post#2764240    
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I tell you junkman no matter what ones view on guns is that refrig joke is funny.



 
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04-14-19 11:26 PM - Post#2764243    
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Hi Sleeper, I understand your colonial history and in some respects, ours has similarities.

However, as a primary difference, it has never been legal for members of the public to own or carry handguns here. The only pistols here are law enforcement and sport pistol shooting which had very stringent rules.

So there is next to no chance that when a police officer here gets out of their vehicle anybody is going to be carrying a concealed gun. However, they wear stab-proof vests all day and night and operate in pairs from vehicles.
In Australia, their Police wear a sidearm all the time.

If someone loses the plot and comes to town with a rifle then that can still happen. It will just mean that it will be a single shot bolt action with a small magazine.

Folks will still die from hunting accidents and domestic violence with firearms.
As I said earlier if you present a firearm in the presence of our police they will react with preventative force. If you present a knife they will taze you, or shoot.

But the objective of our Police is to deescalate the situation, not execute suspects. I understand that potentially when everybody can have a concealed handgun that routine policing becomes vastly different from our situation.

When someone has something in their hand at night and they match the description of a perpetrator then its not surprising that innocent people have been executed by officers discharging multiple rounds. They must be terrified.

There have been multiple US cases where folks have been shot dead by law enforcement when they posed no real risk at all or were just innocent bystanders with a phone in their hand.

Our biggest issue with firearm deaths is probably hunters shooting other hunters followed by domestic incidents. Nothing about our new laws will change that risk much.
But massacres of the innocent by lone terrorists is what we expect to change.

I don't think that the US is like some third world hotspot. As I said above that wasn't my experience. But I do think the number of guys posting images of their handguns tells me that they have genuine insecurity about their own, and families, safety in their own homes.
Given there are more guns than people in the US they may well be correct in their assessment.

Cheers Kiwi.

PS. Yes Mel that was a good one







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Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 04-14-19 11:54 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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04-18-19 09:01 PM - Post#2764522    
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Hi Guys, I guess If I lived in the US I would probably own a smaller calibre handgun, and dependant as to where, maybe a rifle.

But I would not keep the Handgun loaded in the home. Far too many kids have died or killed their siblings that way. I would rely on the family dog as both our early warning and deterrent.
All the dogs I have owned are territorial, and if something wakes them in the night they go off.
This gives you the time to load and verify the situation so you can secure your family, and avoid hasty mistakes.

We don't have handguns here so I have security cameras and lights outside plus the dog.

Hi, Mel, that fridge joke reminded me of a better gun story. Also, did you see the other night a couple house-sitting called the police as someone was breaking in and then moving about in the spare bathroom? They got the full two cars armed turn out and when they forced the bathroom door it was a little robot vacuum cleaner going back and forward.

Anyway to my story.

I come from a large rural family and it was my Uncle Malcolm's funeral in the small town we grew up in. It was a big affair as he had ten brothers and sisters, and forty nephews and nieces plus spouses.
We were mostly seated and waiting to get started, lots of hugs and tears and catch ups.

My Cousin Duncan waddled in with a crutch and limping badly. He is one of six serving Police officers at the time. A couple of other cousins are military and one SAS, though we don't talk much about that. It turns out he had been discharged from Hospital to be there having been shot in the leg in the course of duty.

The Funny thing was that he was the firearms safety instructor at the national Police college and had shot himself in front of a class of recruits.
The Police had just changed over from the old SB 38 to the Glock Pistol. He was showing the students the danger of holstering the weapon with your finger in the trigger guard when it discharged and he shot himself in the calf muscle.
The bullet when through and came out above his ankle missing all the bones and major arteries.

You can imagine the embarrassment and later pain he felt as both his colleagues and now his closest family were mocking him mercilessly. When it happened he told it was more of a burning feeling than pure pain but he was very glad when the ambulance arrived and he was given Morphine.
However, that was not the end of it as the surgeons couldn't just deal with the exit and entry wounds as the weapon had been so close they felt there would be gun oil and powder residue in the wound.

So they opened his calf up like a fish being gutted and flushed it out completely before stitching it closed. But it gets better yet, as the wound area was now quite long and the incisions very deep postoperative infection was a serious issue so they had to take a large skin graft of his inner thigh on the same leg.
This was the part that was causing him the most pain and discomfort. The wound looked like they had used a cheese grater to take the skin. He was walking like an old cowboy with testicular cancer.

After a while, he got sick of the mocking and said the jokes on you guys as I can get an automatic $250,000.00 payout and salary until retirement age, and you taxpayers get to foot the bill.
His older brother, also a Police officer, said no you are not, you have embarrassed us enough. If you do that, I am going to charge you with a "misuse of firearms offence", and that would make your payout the proceeds of crime.

His leg healed up fine and he continued to serve with distinction.

Still, the funniest funeral I have been too.

Cheers Kiwi









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Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 04-18-19 09:37 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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04-19-19 06:33 AM - Post#2764558    
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About 1962 a business contact type friend who was asst Chief of Police shot himself in the butt with a.357 magnum. He was violating standard order, only 5 rounds in the six shooter, hammer rests on an empty chamber. He was getting into a squad car and hooked the hammer on something causing the pistol to un-holster and hit the ground.

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04-20-19 06:53 PM - Post#2764683    
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In 1991 I heard court testimony that a
Smith Wesson 357 murder weapon had an internal safety slide
that prevented the hammer from hitting pin
if X amount finger pressure
was not applied to trigger.


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04-21-19 09:32 PM - Post#2764787    
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  • Chevrobert Said:
In 1991 I heard court testimony that a
Smith Wesson 357 murder weapon had an internal safety slide
that prevented the hammer from hitting pin
if X amount finger pressure
was not applied to trigger.





That's true...I had one.

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05-04-19 07:30 PM - Post#2765733    
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  • Bel Air kiwi Said:


But I would not keep the Handgun loaded in the home.




You might as well use a rock. An unloaded gun is worthless.

Our kids are all grown now and we taught them how to use a gun and gun safety at an early age and none of them were stupid enough to play with guns and shoot themselves.




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05-05-19 06:30 PM - Post#2765789    
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  • Bel Air kiwi Said:

But I would not keep the Handgun loaded in the home. Far too many kids have died or killed their siblings that way.




Well....you better not have fire extinguishers loaded either if they are C02. That way the kids who have zero training or common sense won't set them off in their closet and suffocate.

I would suggest you quit telling us (USA) how we should live our lives. If not having firearms makes you feel safe...good for you. I (we) refuse to be victims. When your country has a population of slightly more than Los Angeles, you can make the feel good statement about disarming your people.
Must be nice to live in a utopian society.

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TAT_2 
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05-06-19 05:01 AM - Post#2765803    
    In response to SleeperSS

THE GOOD OLD HOOD !!! RIGHT ON !!! BRING BACK THE WILD WEST

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bobb 
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05-26-19 10:59 AM - Post#2767119    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

its just another law closer to socialism.

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WagonMan 
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06-11-19 09:40 PM - Post#2768282    
    In response to bobb

I just read a day or two ago that out of the tens of thousands of firearms expected to be turned in that a little under 600 actually have been! Government officials were contemplating whether to raise the price of the buyback or what!! People were simply not complying. I will try to find the source of the info.

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