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Username Post: Candy paint too light!!!!        (Topic#355552)
Builderguy 
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Reg: 03-09-19
03-09-19 09:53 PM - Post#2761692    

A little background. I own a 72 Challenger (340 slap) and two 73 roadrunner (both 340 one slap and one 4 speed). The challenger is going back to it's original color (GA4/light gunmetal) as is one of the RR's (FY1/top banana), but the auto RR I was going to lay a candy paint on it. I have never done a candy so when a friend asked me to paint a candy on his wife's 1965 C10 stepside, I said why not. DUMB idea, I will never do another candy tri coat paint job (too much time and way too much money). Not to mention that it is really testing my skill set. Anyway, here is what I did. Really nice body work/prep followed by JP331 sealer (white), then two coats of Deltron 2000 gold metallic, followed by a drop coat of the same, next I sprayed 4 coats (75% overlap) of Deltron 2000 wineberry candy, followed by two initial coats of JC630 clear. The truck is blown apart so only the front fenders,doors, and grill assembly have been done so far (I know, spray candy all at once because it is very difficult to match) not by my choice. I looks great except it is too light and looks like candy apple instead of the darker wineberry look , should have been 5 coats of candy. I need to fix this! My thought was to allow the clear to set up a few more days, skuff with 600 grit (dry), spray another candy coat, and then re-clear. What do you guys think, will this work the same a 5 initial candy coats would have? Thanks



 




wagonman100 
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wagonman100
Loc: Baltimore, MD
Reg: 11-27-04
03-10-19 08:41 AM - Post#2761720    
    In response to Builderguy

My advice would be to do a test panel to see how many coats it takes to get the color you are seeking. Then you will know how many more coats to do. The clear should not affect it, but just to make sure, put the clear on the test panel just like you have on the truck to see the effect it may have had on it.

Candies are very opaque, so it takes a lot of paint for coverage and desired color. Do the instructions for that brand call for 75% overlap? Being that the nature of candy paint is to get darker where there are more coats, you are effectively putting more coats in some sections than others. Usual overlap is 50%. Does the color look even, but just too light? If it does you are lucky it doesn’t look uneven.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
Builderguy 
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Reg: 03-09-19
03-10-19 03:28 PM - Post#2761757    
    In response to wagonman100

Color is perfect just a touch too light, and I mean a touch. Little afraid to shoot one more candy basecoat on because I am afraid it will be too dark. There are no tiger stripes, when I used my normal 50% overlap there were a lot. Had to use a cross pattern to get rid of them. The tech sheet gives no advise on overlap, but a tech tip I found said 75% for base candy when used in a DBC tricoat color.



 
Builderguy 
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Reg: 03-09-19
03-10-19 04:24 PM - Post#2761762    
    In response to Builderguy

Does anyone see any problem with keeping the 75% overlap (like normal) but increasing arm speed so that this coat would not be as heavy, thus it would be lighter in color than the 4 previous coats. Kinda like 4 1/2 coats.



 
wagonman100 
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wagonman100
Loc: Baltimore, MD
Reg: 11-27-04
03-10-19 08:32 PM - Post#2761784    
    In response to Builderguy

I should have stated that I am not a painter. I am a body man, but I am familiar with painting techniques. Glad the 75% overlap got rid of the tiger stripes. And, yes it sounds like a lighter coat, done by increasing the speed is what may be needed. I would still do a test panel just to see how it affects the color.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
lone star 
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Reg: 08-24-08
03-21-19 05:52 AM - Post#2762579    
    In response to Builderguy

the panels will not match each other.that is going to be a bigger problem and more noticeable than the color being to light.



 




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