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Username Post: Back windows on 2 door sedans        (Topic#355428)
Nite Dragon 
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04-16-19 05:20 AM - Post#2764316    
    In response to Dave in VA

About 3/4 down my build thread shows mine. Passenger side is done. Driver side is done but still working on the quarters, havent updated the thread in a while. Mine was more involved as I did stock hinge suicide doors at the same time
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drew1987 
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04-16-19 05:34 AM - Post#2764318    
    In response to Dave in VA

I’ll photoshop it soon and post. Look at the back doors. There is a 10” or so “straight area.” From the curves of the front and rear windshields, the doors are “straight.” I’ve seen in done in a tri-5 many times and once in a 2006ish Mercedes S600. The only S coupe of that generation at the time. Being that glass is flat, even easier. The only thing I cannot make is the trim. I originally started this post cause I wanted to understand the rear window set up and the door sizes thinking I’d fabricate everything, then started talking donor parts. The Whole donor thing is a bad idea for many reasons. I can do the former quite easily, same as the tri-5 for the most part. The post is spot welded and leaded in, that’s all. Obstacles are:

Trim
Rear window mechanism
Bench seat
Deciding if I really want to delete my rear doors.


I wouldn’t be going for a factory duplicate. I’d be going for a quality custom

Thanks for all the dimensions and such. I’ll post a photoshopped image when I can, and/or a photo of my car with 2 doors if I decide to do it

Andrew D. Carapella (Drew)

'50 Deluxe 4dr v8 auto

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dsacton 
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04-16-19 08:42 AM - Post#2764330    
    In response to Nite Dragon

Incredible job! When I think about how much effort it took for me to get the doors on my 2-door to fit correctly, I can't imagine how difficult it must be to do it from scratch. Good luck,



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drew1987 
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04-16-19 10:05 AM - Post#2764338    
    In response to dsacton

please dont judge my job here - i used MsPaint casue i have no access to photoshop. I really want to do this. I'd say the only thing stopping me is the trim. and bench seat

I took this photo about 30 minutes ago and did this on my office computer in like 5 minutes

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Andrew D. Carapella (Drew)

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drew1987 
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04-16-19 10:06 AM - Post#2764339    
    In response to drew1987

.... and left the vent window in the coupe pic (opposite side)

Andrew D. Carapella (Drew)

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Mike JW 
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04-16-19 04:47 PM - Post#2764358    
    In response to drew1987

Might look good Drew, go for it.



 
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04-16-19 07:16 PM - Post#2764363    
    In response to drew1987

  • drew1987 Said:
in the coupe pic (opposite side)


Just a small point, but for accuracy sake...I believe you meant to say 2 Door Sedan. A coupe, in the Styleline body...is a different body style all together again.


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eplantage 
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04-17-19 06:26 AM - Post#2764382    
    In response to drew1987

I know a guy locally that did something like this with a '34 F**d sedan. He pieced it together from parts, it was a 2 door on one side and a 4 door on the other.

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drew1987 
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04-17-19 09:56 AM - Post#2764399    
    In response to eplantage

Yea I did mean sedan. That’s a kid who grew up in the 90s talking lol we called 2 door sedans coupes (incorrectly)


2 doors on one side and one on the other. SATURN!!!!

Andrew D. Carapella (Drew)

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Bel Air kiwi 
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04-17-19 04:47 PM - Post#2764423    
    In response to drew1987

Hi Drew, that is an awful lot of work for something you can go out and buy. Nite Dragon isn't starting with a very tidy survivor.

Those taillights are what my local guy used and mounted them Corvette style. He made his own pressed patch panel to mount into the guards.

The project took years.

Cheers Kiwi


48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

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drew1987 
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04-18-19 04:34 AM - Post#2764447    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

The car is sentimental so it’d be worthy it.

Talking to “the trim guy” in my local club and apparently, but welding, grinding, and smoothing two pieces of stainless trim not only has been done, but I’ve got guys in my club with cars that have it. That’s one obstacle down. Next is the seat. I can probably use my upholstery, splitting the top part and using plain gray the same color to finish off the open ends. Maybe someone putting buckets in a tri five? It would probably fit? I know they were wider but the seats seemed like far from the rockers.

Window mechanism shouting be hard to cobble up and modify from the ‘yard.





Andrew D. Carapella (Drew)

'50 Deluxe 4dr v8 auto

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50hotrod 
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04-18-19 05:31 AM - Post#2764455    
    In response to drew1987

Drew, are you still going to install the Camaro front sub frame?

The 2 door, doors are longer then the 4 door, doors. Are you going to start with a pair of 2 door, doors and go from there?

I would think the 2 door trim would fit and would serve as a template when you start fabricating??

I watched Gene Winfield chop the top of a Chevy, 52 I think, in 3 days at the Iola Wi car show.

Our family owned a junk yard in the 50's. We had two 52 Buicks, one smashed in the front, one smashed in the rear. My father cut the cars in half and made one. His inspiration....he was told it couldn't be done.

I'm telling you this stuff to encourage you to go with your dream.




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dsacton 
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04-18-19 10:06 AM - Post#2764477    
    In response to drew1987

I completely agree! I'm working on a car that went through a fire, restoring it because of the enjoyment I get out of the process, and because of the memories associated with that particular car.

Scott Acton
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Dave in VA 
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04-18-19 12:13 PM - Post#2764482    
    In response to 50hotrod

Drew, it's nice that you're young and can do this. I wish I had kept some of the cars that I've had over the years. I got into the "hobby" too late in life to take on any time consuming project. I wanted something on the road, not in the workshop.

"Knowledge is Good" -- Emil Faber

U S Navy MM2 1970-75 USS Canisteo AO-99, USS Miller DE-1091 (The Champagne of Ships)

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Bel Air kiwi 
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04-18-19 07:58 PM - Post#2764517    
    In response to drew1987

Hi Drew, How long will $500,000.00 keep your family? How does that heal the heartbreak? Don't you think they would rather you made your car safer and were with them for longer?

This conversion had been done many times and even down under but we just didn't really get two-door variants of these. So that was a way to get the prettier two door.
If there were ever two doors, Autos, panel vans, or coupes, they usually came from US folks working at the deep freeze Antartic step off base in Christchurch.

We also cut a lot of four-door sedans into homemade flatbed pickups for farm and commercial use.

Currently, the best safety for small children and infants are car seats in the rear. Airbags are usually too violent and miss positioned for their frames.

Putting two lap-diagonals in the back with a lap in the center and a child seat shackle/s in the parcel tray is real simple. Having the four doors makes it much easier to reach in and secure in your kids. It is also much easier to use around town as the shorter doors are more convenient.

Sure you don't look like a player, but hey you are a Dad

Once the kids get bigger and more mobile then you get into the booster seat model and then need to be able to control the door locks and interior handles. It's still safer and more useable.

Once they get big enough to use the lap diagonals they don't want to be seen with you, and then all of a sudden they want the car but not you coming along. This is the two-door/roadster phase.

Keep and develop your four-door as it is already a sweet ride. Make it safer, turn better, and stop quicker and it will be a great family car.
Make it so it will tow a camper or boat and it will be at the heart of your family quality time.

If you want something a bit more fashionable then work on a cost-effective plan to do that as a family.

I know its a bit mean of me to lecture you on car ownership given that if I count my two pickups I have more than ten of them. But I didn't start out that way.
I bought my first car magazine at ten years old and mum said I was obsessed with them as a toddler. However, I restricted my self to lightly modified late model stuff until I had established my self career wise and had a self-funding property portfolio.

I think I was over thirty when I bought my old "T" bucket. A little later I bought my 51 4-door Sedan, then my 48 PU.
I then bought with my later to be wife our inner city home.

The capital gains of inflation and my personal work on renovating and extending our home and properties have funded all the later vehicles.

The trick is I still have the "T" bucket and I can break even or better on all my vehicles except my daily driver.
This is because I don't go down dead-end tracks with spending and modifications and then sell them up at a loss.

Keep your four-door as a four-door, it is the best combo for fun with family and friend. That is why I bought a four-door pillarless Edsell rather than the two-door model.

Also one of the big mistakes about car hobbyists is not putting a skill/value on their time.
When you are doing years worth of building you aren't at work or with your kids.

Cheers Kiwi





48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

"They made a desert and called it peace." Tacitus


Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 04-18-19 08:19 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
50hotrod 
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04-20-19 07:37 PM - Post#2764686    
    In response to drew1987

  • drew1987 Said:
please dont judge my job here - i used MsPaint casue i have no access to photoshop. I really want to do this. I'd say the only thing stopping me is the trim. and bench seat

I took this photo about 30 minutes ago and did this on my office computer in like 5 minutes



If you're gonna do it, might as well make it unique.

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