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Username Post: 1964 Chevy Impala power steering        (Topic#355120)
Miami64 
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02-05-19 08:20 PM - Post#2759160    

Hi everyone I'm new to the Forum .. I've been looking for a forum or page for help on a 64 Chevy Impala.. hopefully someone can really help me.. my car has power steering it looks like it's stock original and it has a leak on the pressure side.. but when I search for a new hose it doesn't look like my original ..I'm trying to post up two pictures hopefully I did it correct lol... to see if the new is compatible.. and every website including Impala Bob's has the same new hose.. thanks in advance



https://i.imgur.com/5GISObh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/r2itNSD.jpg



Edited by Miami64 on 02-05-19 08:35 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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MJ DOOM 
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02-05-19 09:31 PM - Post#2759171    
    In response to Miami64

https://www.classicindustries.com/product/1964/chevrole t/impala/parts/*ps7001.html

Might as well replace all four.

1964 Chevrolet Impala - 283 V8


 
junky 
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02-05-19 09:43 PM - Post#2759175    
    In response to MJ DOOM

I agree with replacing all 4, however, I hope that you took pictures of the orientation of the hoses, because it will make it a lot easier to install the new hoses. I went through this problem when the shop that did the R&R of my engine, didn't take pictures, and when it came time to put the new hoses on, it was a guessing game to getting them oriented correctly, so there was no interference with any other part of the car. I bought my hoses from Shafer's Classic Reproduction. If you are ordering hoses, you might as well check all the other wear parts, and order them all at once. The one part that I forgot was the tube that goes through the manifold, and it would have been easy to replace it while the engine was out. Luckily, mine hadn't failed, but I did need both the upper and lower choke heat tubes.

Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.


 
pvs409 
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02-05-19 10:25 PM - Post#2759180    
    In response to junky

The pictures of the set of 4 hoses from Classic Industries show the wrong hoses. The two long hoses must have 3 metal molded ends to match your originals.

Also your old hoses (your picture) are clearly original, they are over 50 years old, replace all of them.
I agree with a Junky, buy Schafer Classic Components ( part # PSH 401), these are quality hoses and they fit(cost is about $ 110 to $115) Find that brand of hoses if they do not sell that brand don’t buy them. I/we recommend what works for hoses from our experience in restorations.

I have pictures of the hose routing and orientation if needed.
Paul

57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
Stittville Ed 
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02-06-19 05:45 AM - Post#2759186    
    In response to pvs409

Hi Paul,
I would like to see the pictures to make sure that I have the proper routing.



 
Miami64 
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02-06-19 12:56 PM - Post#2759208    
    In response to pvs409

That what concerns me is the picture looks way different from the original and I am going to order all the hoses its just picture that looks different



 
omarine 
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02-06-19 01:57 PM - Post#2759214    
    In response to Miami64

The book shows exactly how the hoses are routed, if followed verbatim, there will be no problem.

Cheers,
Oscar

BTW - I am working in Miami now - took me 3 weeks to quit driving my 61 daily after moving here last July. I've done that job before, may be able to assist.

61 Impala bubbletop, 283, 2bbl Rochester, generator, points and drum brakes- daily driver
'49 Harley Davidson FL - Panhead


Edited by omarine on 02-06-19 02:07 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
pvs409 
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02-06-19 03:20 PM - Post#2759222    
    In response to omarine

here are the correct 4 hoses from Schafer

https://shafersclassic.com/i-22628291-1960-1964- ch...

this requires an original PS pump with a metal pipe off the back of the pump to connect like the factory connected the hose.
Paul

57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
Miami64 
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02-06-19 05:51 PM - Post#2759239    
    In response to pvs409

What's the best way to post up a picture



 
Miami64 
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02-06-19 06:14 PM - Post#2759240    
    In response to Miami64

this is what I don't understand

https://i.imgur.com/5GISObh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/r2itNSD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/K6ak9fY.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rf7hDVD.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/bRMTKhM.jpg




 
pvs409 
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02-07-19 12:46 AM - Post#2759265    
    In response to Miami64

You circled the multi curved metal pipe, that pipe "stays connected to the rear of your Power Steering pump"(as I noted in the my previous post). See the first picture above.

The two curved metal ends on large PS hoses go to the top of the control valve(these connections are also shown in the assembly manual). They only fit one way because of the size of the connections. You will need to make sure they "do not bind or hit each other" when turning the steering wheel (to test fit the connections to the top of the control valve). Test for fit by turning the steering wheel all the way to the right and all the way to the left.
The power steering hoses lay on the stabilizer bar. Original PS cars had a protective plastic cover (about 1 ft long)surrounding the stabilizer bar to stop wear on the two large hoses.

Do not cross the small short hoses from the control valve to the hydraulic cylinder. Mount them as shown in the pictures (or the control valve will not work correctly...)
Also do not "cross thread" the small hoses when connecting them to the cylinder and control valve. They are not easy to start without cross threading the fittings. If you do you will ruin the cylinder or the control valve(they will leak.....)

Paul



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PS hoses hooked to the power steering pump using the original metal pipe. the hose end without a metal connector goes to connection on the pump


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PS hose routing under the car


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additional pictures under the car


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picture under car from the passenger side of the hydraulic cylinder


57 BelairHT 283/270hp 4 spd
62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4 (sold)
62 Imp HT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
62 Imp SS 409 - 5 spd Convertible
http://paulstensland.com


 
Miami64 
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02-07-19 03:46 PM - Post#2759328    
    In response to pvs409

Guys thank you all for helping me .. I didn't have the car for that long.. so it looks like the previous owner did some type of shrink wrap over the fitting maybe to hide the leak that's why I couldn't see it .. mine is still on the car so I went and checked and I cut it off with a blade and I saw the fitting... now I could order the complete set thanks again... got the car pushing up on a trailer I was able to finally get it running nice.. but not perfect.. I just couldn't test drive the car good because of this leak



 
Stittville Ed 
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02-08-19 05:34 AM - Post#2759361    
    In response to pvs409

Paul,
Thank You for the great photo's.
I did install mine correctly but I have not installed the pump lines so your photo helped on those also.



 
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