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Username Post: Window channels and vent window gasket        (Topic#355091)
RAM_51 
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03-06-19 04:49 PM - Post#2761476    
    In response to dsacton

  • dsacton Said:
The originals were clipped in place, but that is not an option on the replica.


I took a little different tack since I was able to reuse the original metal part of the channels that still had the original clips on it....and I was only doing one window. I cut synthetic felt that you can buy at about any fabric store. I determined that 3 layers would approximate the thickness of the original felt. I sewed it together using heavy upholstery thread then set it into the channel using GE water proof silicone from a 2.8 FL OZ tube. I let it cure overnight while the glass was inserted into it. The residual silicone you see on the stainless bead stripped away cleanly once it had cured.



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1951 Fleetline
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 




dsacton 
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03-06-19 07:40 PM - Post#2761489    
    In response to RAM_51

Very nice work! The fuzzies I have are already in the channels and I am replacing the whole thing, so no clips.


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RAM_51 
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03-06-19 07:52 PM - Post#2761491    
    In response to dsacton

  • dsacton Said:
Very nice work!


Thanks. This is one route to go if the metal on your originals are still useable. I have seen some channels that are so rusted and disintegrated that this method would be impossible. One last photo of the reinstalled channel. The window is now held nice and snug...no rattling or chance of breakage.

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1951 Fleetline
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
dsacton 
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03-15-19 09:18 PM - Post#2762192    
    In response to RAM_51

Good evening!

I'm putting the glass back in my door and I've run into a dilemma: if I glue the window channel (the bendable section) into the door, how am I ever going to replace the glass if I need to? I can loosen up the wing a bit, but it is still constrained. Is there a trick to getting the window in and out without removing the channel?

Thanks


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1954 Chevy Bel Air 2-door
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johnwd98 
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03-16-19 06:40 AM - Post#2762216    
    In response to dsacton

  • dsacton Said:
Good evening!

I'm putting the glass back in my door and I've run into a dilemma: if I glue the window channel (the bendable section) into the door, how am I ever going to replace the glass if I need to? I can loosen up the wing a bit, but it is still constrained. Is there a trick to getting the window in and out without removing the channel?

Thanks



I may be misunderstanding the post, but my experience is the window is easily installed and removed with the window channel staying in the door. The wing window goes in last, or is removed first when removing the door glass, and is a little trickier to get in and out.

1950 Fleetline, 355 TBI, mild cam, 700R4, 3.73 posi rear Blazer axle, MII front. Remote door and trunk locks, GM cruise control, A/C,


Edited by johnwd98 on 03-16-19 06:43 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
RAM_51 
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03-16-19 08:09 AM - Post#2762222    
    In response to johnwd98

I believe the wing window can stay in and be swung open, but the divider between the wing vent and the side window MUST come out. In other words the front channel must be removed in order to tip the window forward for removal.

1951 Fleetline
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
rrausch 
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03-16-19 08:26 AM - Post#2762223    
    In response to RAM_51

In the glass shop we'd put the wing vent/divider into the door and just sort of let it dangle there, using tape to prevent any paint damage while the glass was put into the slot. We'd then line everything up into the correct channels, and bolt in the wing vent/divider at the very last.

AFTER it was all together we'd grease the steel channels, and spray 100% silicone into the fuzzy channels and adjust everything and tighten all bolts.

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
dsacton 
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03-16-19 02:10 PM - Post#2762245    
    In response to rrausch

Thanks, guys. I will give it a shot. With the wing loose, it frees up space at the bottom on the wing-side channel, but still constrains the glass near the top of the door. I may be able to finess it a bit.



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1954 Chevy Bel Air 2-door
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dsacton 
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03-17-19 08:44 PM - Post#2762333    
    In response to rrausch

Robert (or anyone else too),

Do you know if the stainless is supposed to tuck in as shown, or extend into the channel? Thanks. I got the window in OK, w/o removing the channel, after completely disengaging the wing.


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rrausch 
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03-17-19 09:18 PM - Post#2762338    
    In response to dsacton

Sometimes we tucked them in, similar to the picture, sometimes we cut them off flush so they would meet the vertical piece, but we never ran them into the channel.

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
dsacton 
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03-18-19 08:44 AM - Post#2762365    
    In response to rrausch

Thanks. I can smash it a bit more and tuck it. I cut the other end flush.



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1954 Chevy Bel Air 2-door
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50hotrod 
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03-18-19 09:46 AM - Post#2762369    
    In response to dsacton

I used Permatex High Temp RTV Silicone to install my channel 4 years ago.

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dsacton 
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03-18-19 11:26 AM - Post#2762378    
    In response to 50hotrod

I hope regular RTV works since that is what I used! I probably should have experimented, but I really want to get this car on the road.



Scott Acton
1954 Chevy Bel Air 2-door
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