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Username Post: Bendix Brakes        (Topic#355061)
Keith_Knox 
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02-02-19 10:42 AM - Post#2758824    

Has anyone used the Bendix brake parts from a 51-54 car on their 42-46 1/2 ton pickup? As near as I can tell the parts are the same on a car and truck for 51-54, except for the drum.

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Keroppi 
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02-02-19 07:25 PM - Post#2758865    
    In response to Keith_Knox

  • Keith_Knox Said:
Has anyone used the Bendix brake parts from a 51-54 car on their 42-46 1/2 ton pickup? As near as I can tell the parts are the same on a car and truck for 51-54, except for the drum.


Keith,

One of the better explanations I've read is this one:

https://www.chevytrucks.org/huck-to-bendix-brake- c...

What is not clear to me is about the 6 lug vs 5 lug hubs. I'm not sure if I will need to get a set of different hubs or not, as I believe my hubs and drums are one piece. OTOH, maybe my drums will work on the Bendix plates, that I don't know.

The rear is quite a different story as the plates don't mount the same way.

It's not clear to me if there are differences between passenger and truck, in '46 the passenger and 1/2 ton pickup brakes were the same. I don't think that was true after '47. Maybe someone else can answer that question.

One of the advantages of Bendix brakes is the parts are more readily available even to this day. In the above linked article it just says:

  • Linked Article Said:
Some of the attaching hardware may also need replacement. These parts can be procured from local parts stores as required.



My understanding is that most auto parts stores can order Bendix era parts. On the Hucks you can use the same cylinders on both sides, but on the Bendix the cylinders are l-r designated in how the lines connect and they don't work on both sides.

The advantage is that the drum pushes out into the drum more concentric as the Hucks pivot on a pin.

One disadvantage of this also is that you need to drill out the steering arm so the lower bolts will fit, so if one wanted to go back to the Hucks for whatever reason, they would need another set of vintage steering arms or add a bushing.

That's about the extent of what I know. It's not clear if the fronts can be used with Bendix and the rears with Hucks? That was my plan, but I don't know if that will work. If the rears need to be upgraded to Bendix also, that might not be as easy. Maybe someone here knows the answer to that question.

Alan
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Keith_Knox 
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02-02-19 09:12 PM - Post#2758872    
    In response to Keroppi

Guys have kept thier huck brakes on the rear. To get the 6 lugs on the front, you will need to get 51-64 drums.

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Keroppi 
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02-03-19 12:19 AM - Post#2758874    
    In response to Keith_Knox

  • Keith_Knox Said:
Guys have kept thier huck brakes on the rear. To get the 6 lugs on the front, you will need to get 51-64 drums.


This is the part I don't completely understand. I've looked at the drums on the web, most of the drums look like they take 5 lug. Some looked like they were 5 or 6 depending on how the studs were put in...when I search for 6 lug hubs I don't find any for '51-'59.

Alan
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Mick53 
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02-03-19 08:10 PM - Post#2758933    
    In response to Keroppi

I have some 53 1/2 ton spindles, hubs and drums in 6 lug if you need them. No charge. I'll be home in 2 weeks.



 
Keroppi 
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02-04-19 01:25 AM - Post#2758942    
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  • Mick53 Said:
I have some 53 1/2 ton spindles, hubs and drums in 6 lug if you need them. No charge. I'll be home in 2 weeks.


Mick,

I could use the hubs, as mine are one piece drum/hub.

Keith has actually offered me parts out west, but I could definitely use the 6 lug hubs if you're willing to break them up, would like to get them. If so let me know how much for shipping when you get home.

Alan
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Mick53 
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02-04-19 04:09 PM - Post#2759028    
    In response to Keroppi

No problem, I have 2 complete axles I don't need. Remind me if I forget.



 
Keroppi 
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02-04-19 10:02 PM - Post#2759052    
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  • Mick53 Said:
No problem, I have 2 complete axles I don't need. Remind me if I forget.



I sent you an email, thanks for the offer.

Alan
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Gene_Schneider 
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02-11-19 07:28 AM - Post#2759614    
    In response to Keroppi

To convert Huck brake trucks to Bendix style brakes you use 1951-1954 1/2 ton truck parts.
They are six lug.

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Keroppi 
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02-13-19 03:44 AM - Post#2759794    
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  • Gene_Schneider Said:
To convert Huck brake trucks to Bendix style brakes you use 1951-1954 1/2 ton truck parts.
They are six lug.


Gene,

Aren't the hubs separate from the drums?

I was thinking I could get the hubs from Mick53 which are from a 1/2 ton and use with the passenger axle parts that Keith has. Will that work? (see a few messages above)

If not, and Mick53 has all the parts from a 1/2 ton and I would consider shipping all that rather than try to use Keith's parts.

Alan
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Gene_Schneider 
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02-13-19 07:14 AM - Post#2759806    
    In response to Keroppi

The hub and drum were riveted together but do not have to be. A six lug drum must be used with a six lug hub. A Bendix hub must be used with a Bendix drum.

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Keith_Knox 
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02-13-19 08:56 AM - Post#2759815    
    In response to Gene_Schneider

Gene I have a 29 to 54 parts book, but am not sure how to read it. My question is are the 51-53 car brake parts the same as the 51-54 1/2 ton pickup parts, except for the drum?

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Gene_Schneider 
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02-13-19 11:35 AM - Post#2759834    
    In response to Keith_Knox

Yes, the brakes parts are the same except the front backing plates are truck only.
Also the front spindles for a 1951 and up truck must be used. At the rear the 1951 and up truck backing plates and axles.

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Keith_Knox 
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02-13-19 06:12 PM - Post#2759872    
    In response to Gene_Schneider

Thanks Gene. Knew they were close to being the same.

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2013 F150


 
Keroppi 
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02-13-19 08:51 PM - Post#2759889    
    In response to Gene_Schneider

  • Gene_Schneider Said:
The hub and drum were riveted together but do not have to be. A six lug drum must be used with a six lug hub. A Bendix hub must be used with a Bendix drum.


Gene,

Right, but the $64k questions is if the 5 lug and 6 lug parts can interchange?

I'd like to ask a couple questions in regard to the hub/drum.

From what you have said, I need the plates from a 1/2 ton, correct?

Are the plates specific for the 6-lug or 5-lug hubs?

From what you said, I need a one piece hub/drum, or a 2 piece with a 6-lug hub, is that correct?

Will I only find a 6-lug hub on a 1/2 ton pickup?

I believe Mick53 has the plates, hubs, drums, et al, so maybe I should just get all of that from him together. His is from a 1/2 ton pickup, if you read above. He's traveling until next week and I'm leaving for 2 weeks on Friday. I will try to contact him next week over email.

Alan
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Mick53 
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02-17-19 08:31 AM - Post#2760105    
    In response to Keroppi

I have 2 complete 53 front axles. If you need hubs, drums, backing plates, spindles, bearings or whatever I'll send you whatever you need, no charge. I should be home next week.



 


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